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Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by Steko »

dpark wrote: post #257
rsync wrote: post #217

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Exactly. In 2015, even the small phones are huge. I cannot believe there is not a (huge) market for small, portable phones that you could put in your pocket without altering the way you sit.

Maybe stop sitting on your phone? I've got a nexus 6 in my front pocket and it doesn't affect the way I sit. There isn't a huge market for small portable phones because most people shelling out $500+ for a smart phone want to actually use it as a smart phone. They play games, watch shows and movies, read full novels, and browse the web. These are all experiences that are enhanced by having a larger screen. My wife up…

I think there's a big market for a mini-tablet and bluetooth headset combo that can replace the phone completely. You get the huge screen, the dumb pipe tablet 4G contract, VOIP calling, can make most calls without taking the slab out via voice control.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by mjcohen »

choward wrote: post #161
shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

The potential deal breaker for me is the storage space. You can't just rely on having WiFi everywhere you go. Cell phone plans have data caps. I need to be able to store data on my device. I really don't understand their reasoning. I can get over not having a removable battery, but not having expandable storage is idiotic. They also just updated the apk file size limit from 50MB to 100MB. On top of that, they made th…

My iPod Classic has 160MB, but it seems to be getting worse. I'm torn between either getting a phone (iPhone or 6P) with 128GB or getting the new iPod Touch with 128GB and keeping my Note 3 (I have had consistent trouble with 128GB cards).

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Post by sangnoir »

DannyBee wrote: post #108
ForHackernews wrote: post #97

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> I think Google and Samsung have decided to ditch sd cards to prevent the user having a shitty experience. I think Google has decided to ditch SD cards to encourage users to keep more of their data on Google's servers.

Right, because they makes more sense than ditching them because they are an unreliable mess that cause more problems than they solve, and are not necessary for the vast majority of users. Do you think apple never supported SD cards because they wanted more people to put stuff in icloud?

Not iCloud: Apple would prefer you buy all your storage (NAND) from Apple rather than Kingston, Samsung or SanDisk. Soldered, with an Apple-sized margin.

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Post by vinay427 »

rl3 wrote: post #367

As nice as the new fingerprint sensors are, they come with some nasty drawbacks[0]: Namely, your defense against legally compelled decryption is significantly weakened via use of a fingerprint sensor, since the phone's unlock mechanism is the same authentication system that the phone's encryption mechanism uses (it would be really nice to have some sort of separation there). The last drawback, I'll simply quote verba…

The same is the case on my Nexus 6, for example. It's probably for convenience so that decrypting the device on boot also unlocks the lock screen, and also so that people don't have to remember two methods of authentication.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by shirro »

Ridiculous. Suffer with 2GB ram and 32GB max storage or go with a phone that is too big to get 3GB ram and 64/128GB storage. Why even make a 16GB model. I prefer a device without vendor bloatware and with regular software updates but this round of Nexus is a fail.

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Post by chisleu »

shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

I own a Nexus 5, and I just preordered a 5X 32GB. I'll tell you why.

Wireless charging is something I use with my 5, but it is slow compared to USB. Compared to type C, is will be incredibly slow. There just won't be a need to charge the phone overnight like the wireless charger did.

The battery life is better.

The resolution is the same. This is a plus for me. I don't need higher resolution on such a small screen. It is already incredible for even the tiniest of fonts. Higher resolution = higher power use, higher CPU/GPU use, and more memory use. It would be fine, but I don't need it.

I will use the fingerprint reader. I'm excited to see Android Pay take off. I hate getting my credit card stolen, and I don't like typing in a code every time I use GoogleWallet or whatever I used to use.

The camera is a big deal. I'm excited for slow mo capable capture. I have a small child, and he is a ham.

I also am looking forward to the speed increase. More cores = more potential concurrency = smoother interfaces.

The primary reason I bought it was because it is financed (0%) over 24 months when you sign up for Project Fi. I get the $50 play credit, get to switch to Project Fi, and I get the phone in 2-3 weeks.

The total cell phone bill w/ 1GB of data and the phone included is less than the $50 TMo wanted for their cheapest plan directly.

Note: I would have gotten the 6P, except it was 4-5 weeks instead of 2-3, and I need it here soon as my cell phone plan is expiring.

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Post by 0xFFC »

0xFFC wrote: post #353
georgemcbay wrote: post #316

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Which platform are you going to switch to exactly that has a better official update policy than this one? Not trying to be snarky, but Google's policy is as good or better than most (perhaps all? I haven't heard of a better option, though they may exist) and at least they are completely transparent about it. They also have good policies around keeping the bootloaders unlockable so if they do EOL it and you want to up…

Think of it like this , in near future (maybe in 2016 holiday) you can buy device with Tegra X1 processor which is almost power full as low end desktop device (which I have 3 of them and I run ARCH on them ). Okay ? but the fun part comes here, these devices after two year will become obsolete , you know why ? not because of their hardware , because their hardware will be more than enough for running ordinary tasks ,…

>Given the lack of any ideal alternative, I'm personally sticking with Nexus devices and just going with unofficial builds of the OS when it makes sense to do so.

I can understand your (and most people) point of view about this problem , but this is not how I encounter with my problems. Personally I am sure non of nexus device (no matter how they will be good) will be my next device . (I am planning to switch device in next month)

The one thing I want to mention and personally I cannot tolerate Google shows himself as savior of us from Microsoft/Apple.But it is not , it is as bad as Microsoft of Apple (I would say maybe even worse than them). I just hate how they can handle media and most people thinks Google is different than any other dirty company out there.

Google literally ripping people off.Google can provide more update to solve the problem(or at least make problem less intense ). But instead they just went to opposed direction. They instead of solving problem. Literally made it harder to solve .

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Post by shirro »

rjbrock wrote: post #2

16gb and 32gb? Why is storage always so low?

Because apparently the cameras are so bad that nobody records video on them. Do you want to store your music and apps or record your kid's birthday? Tough choice.

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Post by mjcohen »

gohrt wrote: post #83
cpncrunch wrote: post #47

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The internal memory is much faster than SD cards, and potentially more reliable. I think Google and Samsung have decided to ditch sd cards to prevent the user having a shitty experience. Also, Google is offering 128GB, which is pretty decent. And their pricing is much less than Samsung's for 64gb vs 32gb.

How fast is internal storage? When has an SD card failed before every other part of the phone , including USB port and screen?

I have tried two different 128GB cards on my Note 3. The first one died after a few months, the second one is currently having problems. My next phone will have at least 128GB internal storage (iPhone or 6P).

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Post by tgb »

chrsstrm wrote: post #336
zuppy wrote: post #327

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Nobody's going to bother to recreate your fingerprint, when it's much easier to beat you with a wrench ( https://xkcd.com/538/ ) until they get access to your phone. It's a huge convenience for you though, to unlock it without doing anything extra, as you're pressing that button anyway to turn the screen on. Much easier than typing passwords.

My worry is that this is a gateway drug to "Fingerprint protect all the things!" My bank emailed me the other day with an announcement that I could access my account through their app via my fingerprint. WTF? My text messages are one thing by now my money is protected by just my fingerprint? I took my bank to task because they allowed my username to be twice as long as the allowed characters in my password. Someone a…

What can the bank app do? Mine can only deposit and view accounts, not withdraw or transfer. Open access to it would be weird, but not much worse than someone fishing my ATM receipts out of the trash to see my balance.
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