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Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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They announced $399 for the 16GB and $429 for the 32GB.

$379, not $399. There's an optional $69 2-year protection plan, which would cost $99 from SquareTrade. It also comes with a $50 Play Store credit. If you would've spent the money on the warranty and Play Store anyway, that makes it a $300 phone.

the protection plan is not included

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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I really need to see a comparison between 6P, Moto X Pure, and current 6. Those are the phones I need to decide between. Current 6 only b/c it should get cheap and the Snapdragon 820 comes out next year, but I'm not sure I can wait a year with my aging Moto X 2013.

Maybe it's not worth it to you but I'd love to see a comparison between the phones you listed but also toss the iPhone 6S+ in there. I don't have any brand loyalty and bounce back and forth between iOS and Android so it's always helpful for me when someone includes the iPhone in comparison.

Would be a nice edition for other's without brand loyalty.

I just have no desire to ever switch into the Apple ecosystem, and I've significantly bought into Google's

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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16gb and 32gb? Why is storage always so low?

Compared to couple of GBs Android phones came with just 3 or so years ago, 32GB is a lot. For anything except Video content (or the need for several months of offline music) 32GB is plenty.

I'd prefer my entire audio collection on the same device, not because I want to listen to several months of music without interruption, but to be able to choose that particular album or track that perfectly fits my mood now.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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As an owner of Nexus 6, I was taken aback by the Nexus 6P pricing. Effectively you can get 6P for 500-50$ vs 650$ for Nexus 6 (32GB). Agreed Nexus 6P is smaller than Nexus 6 but if they can sell 6P at 450$ I wonder why they jacked up Nexus 6's price so much.

> I wonder why they jacked up Nexus 6's price so much.

The new thing is cheaper than the old thing, so the old thing must have been overpriced? Is it possible instead that in the intervening time components have become cheaper, Google has been able to negotiate better deals (perhaps due to higher projected volume), and so on?

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Why did Google bother with all of that work to fix SD storage in Android M[0] if they're still not going to put an SD card in their Nexus phones!?! I was holding out hope that I would finally have a reason to buy a Nexus phone with the 5X or 6P, but now that we have the final spec sheet, I think I'm going to just grab an HTC One M9 or something. The lack of expandable storage really kills it for me. [0] http://www.an…

They did the work for third parties to keep it an an option for the lower end market. The higher end market has shown it doesn't care about SD cards and, honestly, I think for good reason: their user experience has always been terrible. Internal storage is faster and more reliable so I think you're always going to see more and more phones, especially flagships, not offer expandable options.

SD card user experience is terrible, so we will fix the user experience (and just make them a joint overlay FS) but not include one, while still shipping phones with 16-64GB capacities like we did five years ago.

If they want me to ever buy an SD card-less phone, they better start shipping 256GB options at the real cost of the flash memory involved (ie, $40 more expensive over a 64GB option, not $100 or more).

When you are shipping phones with cameras nearing 20+ MP where you would fill up the paltry internal storage (what, like 10GB after OS on the 16GB models?) in a thousand photos at PNG compression (ie, about 10MB a shot) you are doing it wrong, especially when SSD manufacturers are about to start shipping 4TB options in m.2 form factors (ie, the size of a small candy bar).

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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The internal memory is much faster than SD cards, and potentially more reliable. I think Google and Samsung have decided to ditch sd cards to prevent the user having a shitty experience. Also, Google is offering 128GB, which is pretty decent. And their pricing is much less than Samsung's for 64gb vs 32gb.

> I think Google and Samsung have decided to ditch sd cards to prevent the user having a shitty experience. I think Google has decided to ditch SD cards to encourage users to keep more of their data on Google's servers.

Right, because they makes more sense than ditching them because they are an unreliable mess that cause more problems than they solve, and are not necessary for the vast majority of users.

Do you think apple never supported SD cards because they wanted more people to put stuff in icloud?

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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post #30

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Wireless charging was a great feature for in the car. I would set my phone down and it would play music over BT while charging. C'est la vie.

It's a great feature in general. I've had the google charging orb since the nexus 4 and not having to worry about unplugging/plugging in the phone is so nice. This is probably going to stop me from getting either of these new phones.

I really like the idea of wireless charging but the Qi devices I used left much to be desired. On the Nexus 4, the alignment is critical for it to work at all. The Nexus 5 fixed that issue with magnets but only if you had the official charger, otherwise you were back to trying to precisely align things. Randomly the Nexus 4 would freak out and forget it's charging or rapidly enter and exit charging mode, even on the LG charger. Devices would randomly decide to become hotplates, still haven't figured out what voodoo causes that to happen so I could avoid it. I'm pretty sure every 3rd party or knock off Qi charger I played with was a fire or shock hazard, probably both.

I think until they solve the range, alignment, and random hotplate issues that Qi is not ready for prime time. If they suddenly solve all of those issues I'll be gluing Qi chargers underneath every surface I own.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internal memory is much faster than SD cards, and potentially more reliable. I think Google and Samsung have decided to ditch sd cards to prevent the user having a shitty experience. Also, Google is offering 128GB, which is pretty decent. And their pricing is much less than Samsung's for 64gb vs 32gb.

It may be, but you only have to buy one high-speed (U3?) microSD card once (every 4-6 years), while if you need 128GB storage in your phone but it only comes as internal, then with every phone you buy you'll have to pay that extra premium.

If you have a microsd card that is not failing after 6 years, i'd be super-duper impressed :) I have never gotten one past 3 with normal usage.
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