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How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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The more you know…

The article mentions salmon being responsible for the popularity of sushi globally. I actually prefer salmon sushi over tuna sushi by far. In fact, if it wasn't for salmon, I probably would've never like sushi. My first few experiences were with tuna and I hated it each time.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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There was actually a very sensible rule followed in China and Japan about eating raw fish. You only ate sea fish raw, while freshwater fish were always cooked. There's a good rationale behind this. Freshwater fish tend to carry parasites that can cross the species boundary between fish and human. Whereas, sea fish do not tend to carry such parasites. You can understand the reason for that based on natural selection.…

That's why this was such an interesting story, battling prejudice and ancient folk wisdom is no simple task. Here's a typical Norwegian salmon farm http://i0.wp.com/blogg.seafood.no/wp-content/uploads/2013/02... . This is a sea-water farm and the fish is vaccinated early on and live a healthy antibiotics free life until they end up on your sushi (sour-tasting rice).

fish farms had just gone commercial in the 70's but hadn't grown that much at the time. the excess of high quality fish was wild salmon.

in the 70's in norway (and in alaska, can't speak about anywhere else) commercial fishing was in it's prime.

you can read more about the history of norwegian aquaculture here. http://www.svt.ntnu.no/iso/anders.skonhoft/Marine%20Policy%2...

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Most of the cultivated salmon is actually containing significant amounts of heavy metals (due to the sea fish they get fed). And it is also given large amounts of medication to prevent sickness and parasites. This all ends up on our plates... I love salmon, but have almost fully stopped eating it, lacking a trusted source. Also because the salmon get fed with seafish, cultivating them actually contributes to overfish…

the overfishing problem you mention is also addressed in "Cowspiracy" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3302820/) which I highly recommend. Since few days available on Netflix Germany.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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No, according to that logic, you shouldn't eat raw beef, pork and chicken. Which is a highly advisable precaution - not following it will result in a high chance of critters like Taenia Saginata or Trichinella spiralis making a home inside you.

Trichinella is actually vanishingly rare in US commercial pork today. Most cases these days come from boar and other wild game.

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/trichinellosis/epi.html

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are raised in Chile probably, the american productor of Salmon. Is the same as Norway for European market (and often farms belong to Norwegian or Norway/Chile mixed companies).

> productor You're probably looking for the English work 'producer'.

*word

Muphry's Law, argh.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Another way of see this is that both, Japan and Norway have a big aquaculture industry and they compete. To assure the control of the salmon's market is an essential goal for Norway as nation; they produce 1 million of tons each year for the european market. When somebody tries to farm new salmon (in France or Spain or whatever) they typically flood the market with below cost salmon or trouts until the competence is…

Does this dumping not bring in the WTO? I can only find this reference from 2009 claiming they have stopped dumping. http://www.eu-norway.org/news/repeals_anti_dumping/#.Vf1gScR...

Dumping has to involve a government subsidy. Selling the product below cost at manufacturer's or investor's expense is just an aggressive market acquisition strategy.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Another way of see this is that both, Japan and Norway have a big aquaculture industry and they compete. To assure the control of the salmon's market is an essential goal for Norway as nation; they produce 1 million of tons each year for the european market. When somebody tries to farm new salmon (in France or Spain or whatever) they typically flood the market with below cost salmon or trouts until the competence is…

Interesting. Quite a lot of salmon and trout in the UK is Scottish. It never occurred to me that we might only be eating it locally, and not exporting it.

scottish salmon is on a lot of menus in california. it is generally sold as a premium pan-roasted fish entree. it's quite good, almost as good as alaskan (king, sockeye) which is the primary wild market salmon here in ca.

i believe i've seen it in new york as well.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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The fact that the Norwegians had to freeze all of their surplus salmon probably helped, too. Freezing kills parasites, eliminating the #1 reason the Japanese didn't want to eat raw salmon. Nowadays, most salmon stays frozen until a few hours before it goes on your sushi. Salmon is uniquely suited for freezing/thawing because its high fat content helps it retain texture. Freezing also has the side effect of giving sal…

The only reason Norwegian salmon getting frozen is transportation. Domestically, it is sold chilled near exclusively. Well and in a few smoked/fermented variants certainly.

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Interesting. Quite a lot of salmon and trout in the UK is Scottish. It never occurred to me that we might only be eating it locally, and not exporting it.

UK produces 162.000 ton of farmed salmon in Scotland and 11.000 ton of rainbow trout (2012) but it lacks of many suitable areas to growth and currently is the 5 or 6th european country. Norway produced instead 1,3 million tons of salmon in 2012 (and growing). Is the first european productor and by far the largest (Spain is the second with about 260.000 tons/year of mussels). Their aquaculture industry is an strategic…

Best i can find indicates that the 2013 exports slumped below the million ton mark...
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