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How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Those are raised in Chile probably, the american productor of Salmon. Is the same as Norway for European market (and often farms belong to Norwegian or Norway/Chile mixed companies).

> productor You're probably looking for the English work 'producer'.

Yes, thank you for the correction

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Most of the cultivated salmon is actually containing significant amounts of heavy metals (due to the sea fish they get fed). And it is also given large amounts of medication to prevent sickness and parasites. This all ends up on our plates... I love salmon, but have almost fully stopped eating it, lacking a trusted source. Also because the salmon get fed with seafish, cultivating them actually contributes to overfishing the oceans. There is a german documentary about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Sl_wjiOyI

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Another way of see this is that both, Japan and Norway have a big aquaculture industry and they compete. To assure the control of the salmon's market is an essential goal for Norway as nation; they produce 1 million of tons each year for the european market. When somebody tries to farm new salmon (in France or Spain or whatever) they typically flood the market with below cost salmon or trouts until the competence is…

Canada is alright with PNW salmon farming, but the US is not. The biggest concern is protecting the native salmon runs, especially against the risks of disease, drugs, and general filth building up in the farms and contaminating things.

Canadians are NOT alright with this practice. Corporations from Norway have industrial pens of Atlantic salmon in Pacific waters within Canada. This is not just a concern, the items you list are problems today, as well as pollution from the pens, and over-fishing of traditional stocks to provide feed for the farmed fish.

Without the public's knowledge because these deals and the details within these documents that are being signed are kept secret, and without the consent of most Canadians, politicians in Canada have signed off on foreign corporations extracting resources and exporting profits from Canada -- and if we try to stop you, you can sue our government and collect even more money.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Another way of see this is that both, Japan and Norway have a big aquaculture industry and they compete. To assure the control of the salmon's market is an essential goal for Norway as nation; they produce 1 million of tons each year for the european market. When somebody tries to farm new salmon (in France or Spain or whatever) they typically flood the market with below cost salmon or trouts until the competence is…

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Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The the logic I can draw from your statement is that Norway is a very humble place :)

Well, yes, that's half of it. The other half is that social status is more implicit here.

I'm down in Holland, thinking about visiting Norway soon, it's just across the little pond, after all. Maybe some of that implicit status will rub off on my during my visit. You have a recommendation for a good place for a Norway-newbie to visit?

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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There was actually a very sensible rule followed in China and Japan about eating raw fish. You only ate sea fish raw, while freshwater fish were always cooked.

There's a good rationale behind this. Freshwater fish tend to carry parasites that can cross the species boundary between fish and human. Whereas, sea fish do not tend to carry such parasites. You can understand the reason for that based on natural selection. Its an exceedingly rare event for a sea fish to be eaten by a land mammal (at least it was on the scale of evolutionary time before modern times), so most parasites of sea fish have not evolved a mechanism to exist in land mammal bodies. Whereas fresh water fish are often eaten by land mammals, and so many strains of parasites have adapted to make a smooth transfer from fish to land mammal body.

Its very sensible NOT to eat raw Salmon. Although they end up in the sea, they have two phases of life in bodies of fresh water where they can pick up parasites that can transfer to a human host.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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post #46

I do think that smoked salmon makes better sushi than raw.

Probably. I remember a wild salmon smoked with fir wood and with entire pepper grains in a small village in Sweden that was absolutely memorable. My parents sniffed the smoke, entered automatically in bloodhound mode and find a fisherman that was working in a lake beach and sell them one.

I like also the raw but can come in several different qualities. Some are very good, other not so.

Re: How Norway Created Salmon Sushi

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There was actually a very sensible rule followed in China and Japan about eating raw fish. You only ate sea fish raw, while freshwater fish were always cooked. There's a good rationale behind this. Freshwater fish tend to carry parasites that can cross the species boundary between fish and human. Whereas, sea fish do not tend to carry such parasites. You can understand the reason for that based on natural selection.…

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