Interesting! Lived in Japan a long time, and always half-wondered why it was "salmon" for sushi & "sake" for everything else but never asked.
How Norway Created Salmon Sushi
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#22To this day, the salmon in Japanese sushi restaurants is always labeled サーモン "saamon", which is known to be imported and is OK to eat raw; and never 鮭 "s(h)ake", which is (usually) local and always salted and cooked first -- even though ''shake'' as a term covers all types of salmons.
I've been to plenty of sushi restaurants in Japan where it's labelled 鮭 and pronounced "shake". No idea if that means it was local salmon
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the Netherlands Scottish salmon is sold as 'premium'. Funny how these things go sometimes.
There's a fair market (at least here in Scotland) for "premium" line-caught salmon, so I suppose it could be similar there?
Where is that line caught salmon from - presumably not from Scottish rivers or lochs?
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#24When I lived in Argentina we would call Sushi restaurants "Salmon shops" as they would never serve Tuna, it would be 95% salmon and some minute pieces of white fish.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the Netherlands Scottish salmon is sold as 'premium'. Funny how these things go sometimes.
There's a fair market (at least here in Scotland) for "premium" line-caught salmon, so I suppose it could be similar there?
Yes. The question is that fishes do not eat or use carbs normally, they use fat as source of energy and protein as last resource. Salmonidae are a little different because use protein as main source of energy. They burn muscle in its travel ending skinny and with deformed heads. Thus, normally maybe the 80-90% of flesh in wild salmon is tasty protein. If you think in a "fatty fish" you never think in salmon.
Aquaculture fishes instead do not have problems to obtain fat. Fat is cheaper than protein so you have better cost-benefit ratio if you feed your salmons with more fat content pellets.
I'm not saying that the farmed salmon is a bad product at all but wild salmon is a different thing. Not so apt to freeze and send to thousands of Km. You can earn more money selling it in fresh in the local market as wild product (but be aware that some 'wild' high-prized salmon in the market is farmed probably in fact).
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#27When I lived in Argentina we would call Sushi restaurants "Salmon shops" as they would never serve Tuna, it would be 95% salmon and some minute pieces of white fish.
Those are raised in Chile probably, the american productor of Salmon. Is the same as Norway for European market (and often farms belong to Norwegian or Norway/Chile mixed companies).
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#28How I read:
How Norway Created _Salman Rushdie_.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where is that line caught salmon from - presumably not from Scottish rivers or lochs?
At the sea.
I was curious about whether these were local Scottish salmon on imported salmon - traditionally there was a fair amount of salmon caught at sea near to the mouths of rivers in Scotland but that has mostly stopped - partially, as far as I know, from pressure from the landowners who own fishing rights to rivers & lochs. Fishing in Scotland can be extremely expensive.
NB I am in Scotland and eat a fair bit of salmon and I wasn't aware of the "line caught" label.
Edit: And by "extremely expensive" I mean up to £10,000 a fish.
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#30Another way of see this is that both, Japan and Norway have a big aquaculture industry and they compete. To assure the control of the salmon's market is an essential goal for Norway as nation; they produce 1 million of tons each year for the european market. When somebody tries to farm new salmon (in France or Spain or whatever) they typically flood the market with below cost salmon or trouts until the competence is…
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