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16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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This would all be trivially solved if Apple would just put a goddamn SD card slot in it. Storage size as sole model differentiation is sooo 2001. At this point it genuinely makes Apple look out of touch in a market where every other flagship quality model doesn't bother with it and includes an SD slot, partly I suspect because it's just saner from a production and inventory standpoint even besides the consumer benefi…

No it wouldn't. 1. Flagship models don't all include an SD slot. Galaxy S6, Moto X, Nexus 6 for example. It's clearly a common decision. 2. I doubt that even if they iPhone did include such a slot the problem would be solved. Removable storage is complicated.

LG G4 has SD card slot.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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He bought an iphone 6s as a testing device that would spend most of its life in a desk drawer! I hope this was a company expense or something? One of those would be like a weeks wages for me. I can't understand why people pay so much for smart phones anyway. And if your idiotic phone runs out of memory at the top of some mountain, "the moment isn't missed forever", the moment gets missed because you're mucking about…

So what if someone has more money than you, and can spend a few hundred dollars on a testing device?

It just seems rather wasteful. I don't care if the guy has more money than me though I am stunned that someone who appears to be a programmer (like myself) would regard quite a few hundred dollars as a trivial matter. As someone else mentions, I guess he must be very successful.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather be present and use my meat-based memory than have a "memory" on my phone of an event I viewed through a glass, darkly. I'm going to blow your mind: you are actually allowed to do both.

... you are actually allowed to do both. Allowed, yes. Capable, not likely. Multitasking is overrated and actually counterproductive when writing to the meat-store inside your skull.

Snapping a picture then enjoying it with your eyes is not multitaskkng. It's just doing something one after the other.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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post #28
post #24

I have no problems with 16GB iPhone which I've had since the 3G. Currently I have 72 apps installed. Syncing with 8 email addresses. I use Spotify for music, and have an offline playlist with about 2GB songs. Photos and movies are synced to the cloud, and files older than 1 month are deleted from the device. I have 3.2GB available. So while your points may be valid for some, I can manage fine with 16GB. And it's not…

37% of 16gb iPhone 6 users are unable to deal with it. So good for you being able to deal with it. A large amount of users can not.

No. 37% has less than 1GB available. It doesn't state anything about them not being able to deal with it. If I have all the apps and music I need, why should it be a problem with 800MB available. I can't believe so many infer that the majority have space issues just because they need 64GB for all their music stored offline and hours of video-recordings in 1080p themselves.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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post #35

Of course 16Gb is an "uncomfortable" user experience. It's supposed to be. It's about market segmentation. It's not cost. 32gb memory units in bulk are like $1 maybe. Apple charges an extra $100 because they are using that easy-to-understand difference to segment the market and collect an extra $100 profit from those that can afford that price point.

You're basically restating the conclusion of the piece. The author states that this (presumably) intentional choice undermines the Apple brand that includes quality and uncompromisingly excellent user experience.

This has been the state of things since Apple started offering different storage sizes on their iPhones. The bigger model has always been $100 more expensive. This is as much a part of the Apple brand as quality and uncompromisingly excellent user experience.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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There is no way that the experiences you will have while recording everything will be the same as without. If the recording is completely passive, as randallsquared was saying , why not?

Because people do not act the same when they are being recorded and when every statement they make can be reviewed in the future. Unless you are secretly recording them, don't count on an experience not filled with awkward self consciousness. You may find that a significant amount of people will not want you around them, including the staff of any buisness you are in. If you think this is good, like some sort of pres…

In most situations where people are currently recorded constantly, the recording doesn't seem to produce social awkwardness. Nearly every urban public or semi-public space is this way; one may argue that cities are pressure cookers, but it's not clear to me that the reason is ubiquitous recording.

In any case, as the tech to record becomes ever smaller and less obtrusive, there will ultimately be no way to know whether you are being recorded digitally. Therefore society and people's reactions will adjust.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because people do not act the same when they are being recorded and when every statement they make can be reviewed in the future. Unless you are secretly recording them, don't count on an experience not filled with awkward self consciousness. You may find that a significant amount of people will not want you around them, including the staff of any buisness you are in. If you think this is good, like some sort of pres…

In most situations where people are currently recorded constantly, the recording doesn't seem to produce social awkwardness. Nearly every urban public or semi-public space is this way; one may argue that cities are pressure cookers, but it's not clear to me that the reason is ubiquitous recording. In any case, as the tech to record becomes ever smaller and less obtrusive, there will ultimately be no way to know wheth…

Yes but there is a key difference between constant recording being spread across a disconnected sprawl that is only accessible to a police office willing to drop by the local 711... And a recorded stream made by a person around you who is able to quickly review and forever archive the content.

I think in the end it will become quite taboo to operate a recording device with your friends all the time. Maybe it will become okay to turn it on during a jog through the city or a trip to the fair, but having your recording device turned on while enjoying a glass of wine with me on my back porch will be a no-no. Having it own while at the gym? No. Client meeting or anything work related which could contain company "secrets"? No. Maybe I'm wrong and there will be a cultural shift in which we all just submit ourselves to this sort of social survalience, but I find it hard to imagine it happening in any sphere more interesting than a family trip to the Apple Store.

There is no way that a first date and the potential trip back to my place has any room for a recording, it's just not a psychological and social fit.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most situations where people are currently recorded constantly, the recording doesn't seem to produce social awkwardness. Nearly every urban public or semi-public space is this way; one may argue that cities are pressure cookers, but it's not clear to me that the reason is ubiquitous recording. In any case, as the tech to record becomes ever smaller and less obtrusive, there will ultimately be no way to know wheth…

Yes but there is a key difference between constant recording being spread across a disconnected sprawl that is only accessible to a police office willing to drop by the local 711... And a recorded stream made by a person around you who is able to quickly review and forever archive the content. I think in the end it will become quite taboo to operate a recording device with your friends all the time. Maybe it will bec…

The thing is, you're already recording those things, just in low fidelity and with poor searchability. If the tech were coming from the other direction, as "improved memory" and the ability to download memories to external storage, how would that change your view on tabooing?

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but there is a key difference between constant recording being spread across a disconnected sprawl that is only accessible to a police office willing to drop by the local 711... And a recorded stream made by a person around you who is able to quickly review and forever archive the content. I think in the end it will become quite taboo to operate a recording device with your friends all the time. Maybe it will bec…

The thing is, you're already recording those things, just in low fidelity and with poor searchability. If the tech were coming from the other direction, as "improved memory" and the ability to download memories to external storage, how would that change your view on tabooing?

I think you are making a weak argument that creating concrete audio/video recordings has any similarity to the memory of one's mind. There is such a massive ocean of difference between the filters of perception and distortion in memory recollection and video recordings, I think you are making the brain out to be something it isn't.

Nonetheless, this is an interesting debate. Reminds me of an episode of Black Mirror. Check that out for sure, it basically illustrates what you are saying. I found the segment in which before boarding an airplane passengers were required to allow the security to review their memory quite disturbing. Extrapolate that invasion of privacy in every other direction. Having whatever cloud or personal drive you record to be potentially hackable or open for evidence in the courts... It's just some dystopian death of privacy territory that I can't ever seeing the public embracing. Then again, maybe they will and if they do I'll be moving myself to whatever state our country is willing to stand up for privacy and ban such devices.

The basis of my position is the historical record that the most important ideas and movements towards advancements in human rights have often started out as illegal, unpopular and challenges to the status quo. The idea that we can stop crime by recording everything is an illusion and will only serve to suppress advancements which defy the current rule of law.

Re: 16GB Is a Bad User Experience

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Bad user experience depends on the user. Personally I very much enjoy the somewhat lower price of less-beefy models of smartphones and tablets — as I'm not obsessed with taking pictures, don't play blockbuster video games on mobile, and prefer my books as text, instead of audio files. The title of the post is similar to saying e.g. "ARM CPU is bad UX", and complain that you can't mine Bitcoin effectively on ARM.

Let's hope that abject consumerism that makes you downvote this will also give you cancer.
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