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How do you define dominating mobile? There are far more Android smartphones.
iOS has a 14% market share
DOMINATION.
Apple Unveils the iPad Pro
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Later edit. It's iOS for fuck sake. It's ridiculous to compare iOS with full Windows. A keyboard is not that useful in a TOUCH based OS.
- How is it gimped? - Why do you have multitasking in quotes? You're going to need to work a bit more on your comments here, you can't just expect a full Anti-Apple thread to do well with zero sources or information. > Later edit. You completely re-write your comment and downvote me? Fantastic.
Parent can't actually downvote you (just as you can't downvote this post), FYI.
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It's one thing to have a persistent object store instead of a file system (as the Newton did). It's wholly another to have a file system at the core of your OS but just pretend it doesn't exist. That's a regressive obfuscation, not encapsulation. (Yes, I understand who the target audience is.)
Apple's primary focus is on UX simplicity and Customers couldn't care less how it's implemented behind the scenes, they just want to get stuff done, find the Word document they were working on or see the Photo or Video they just took. The less Customers have to know about how technology works the happier they are, and the more successful Apple is.
The key part of that last statement is have to.
You're right that as a matter of routine, having recent documents worked with in an app come up on opening it (and an easy visual list of all the files the app has touched) is a great interaction pattern.
That says nothing about whether or not there should be some kind of file browser, or other means for users to become aware and able to interact with files outside an app.
Particularly because at some point, single-app workflows hit their limits, and getting stuff done either becomes a matter of using multiple apps or waiting for an app to grow the new feature you need (the latter of which is not just getting stuff done).
And I'm not just talking about Power Users -- I've seen this happen with my mom (proverbial disinterested computer user), who generally is quite happy to be completely unaware of the file system, but still periodically runs into corner cases where she needs to do something no single app will let her do (usually audio-file related).
This all reminds me of the discussion around hiding URLs in browsers:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7677898
For decades, we had a system where people who didn't care to pay any attention to URL bars could ignore them, and people who were incidentally curious could learn useful things by paying attention, people who needed to discover them could, and people found them regularly useful had them at the ready.
Then somebody who got caught up in a shallow idea of simplicity that neglects utility and discoverability decided they'd make a UX change that was hostile to all of latter two groups. After all... the first group doesn't care, they just want to navigate the web and get stuff done.
The right principle here is to make the simple case easy and obvious, and the more complex case discoverably possible.
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I dunno - Apple kind of killed NFC adoption by waiting so long to finally include it. They should have had it back in 2012.
They still haven't included it...
Well it's there for apple things like Apple Pay. There's no real incentive for them to open it up to developers unless they're controlling the space. i.e. for Apple Pay it's nice, or say to unlock your car, or unlock your home's door with Home Kit, but random NFC thingies? They're not really interested.
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Yeah for a long time it was higher the version number the better and the rest was old, sold at refurbished. Now they have new with lower version numbers selling along side the other ones? There goes that simplicity. Maybe in the end this is better for the bottom line but it's just uncharacteristic.
Also, how come on the slide they are selling iPad Mini 2 & 4 but not iPad Mini 3? This is so confusing
The iPad Mini 3 is just an iPad Mini 2 with touchID. They probably figured touchID should remain a differentiating feature to upcharge for.
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#486Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large
And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.
>the once innovative company is now playing catch up
Apple never did the VERY first products of a category. There was Xerox before Lisa, PDAs before Newton, mp3 players before the iPod, smartphones before the iPhone, tablets before the iPad, smartwatches before the Apple Watch, etc.
The only did the first products of a category that were where at least half-thought out (instead of rushed crap), and people actually wanted to buy in droves.
Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro
#487Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large
And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.
If innovation were what mattered, everyone would be browsing with Opera.
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#488The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…
This comment is exactly why HN won't never understand anything about Apple announcements. Highly technical folks, unable to get out of their technical bias, reprimanding the extremely successful decision makers of a successful company because they pretend to know the matter, while completely ignoring the real world scenarios that actually drive Apple products sales.
It's the standard
". No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. "
response.
http://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-ip...
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One what? It's unclear what you are trying to convey with this post.
The other replies have summed up what I meant well, but I will add that a crucial component of a cynical Apple announcement day post is to preface it with a list of the number of Apple products one has bought in order to establish oneself as an unbiased authority on Apple products. Look back at every single Apple announcement and you'll realize Apple just takes tech that's already out in the marketplace and refines i…
You mean strips it off it's usability and charge more?
Apple "dominance" is rather endemic, eventually there will be no reason to pay the 100% - 300% markup.
Sure, the apple stores look nice, until you see what you actually get for the price
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I really don't give a shit who is copying who. It's technology; we're all building on the backs of inventions created by other people. The important thing to me is who does it the best, not who does it first. The iPod was nowhere near the first mp3 player, it was just the best one. The iPad wasn't close to the first tablet. Will it be the best tablet? I don't know, but whether or not the Surface had a keyboard first…
But the iPod, iPhone & iPad were much better than the incumbents. iPad Pro is not.
To you. It looks better to me. It depends what you expect and need. But I'll have to try it to claim something explicitly.