Apple Unveils the iPad Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by elemenopy » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:00 PM UTC

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #248

NathanCH wrote: post #238

https://i.imgur.com/sV4SZyD.png What is going on with Apple's line-up? This is unnecessarily confusing.

Yeah for a long time it was higher the version number the better and the rest was old, sold at refurbished. Now they have new with lower version numbers selling along side the other ones? There goes that simplicity. Maybe in the end this is better for the bottom line but it's just uncharacteristic.

Also, how come on the slide they are selling iPad Mini 2 & 4 but not iPad Mini 3? This is so confusing

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by therein » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:00 PM UTC

RexRollman wrote: post #349

slg wrote: post #24

It is interesting comparing Microsoft and Apple's convertible tablet strategy. Microsoft's devices use the full OS and are basically laptops first and tablets second while Apple is doing the opposite. If this is truly designed to be "Pro" as in enterprise , I think Microsoft's strategy is going to lead to more productive and therefore better enterprise devices. EDIT: And after the price is revealed the scales tip a l…

I think the one important thing that Microsoft's approach has over Apple's is file management. File management is horrible on iOS.

Do you know what happens if you let people see their files? They try to edit them. Do you want people to be able to edit their files? Yeah... I thought so.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by slg » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:01 PM UTC

After digging in a little more on the details, it doesn't look like Pencil will be compatible with any other device outside the iPad Pro. That is a little disappointing and there doesn't appear to be any specific hardware reason for it. I would welcome the opportunity to replace my paper notebook with a iPad Mini 4 and Pencil.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by billforsternz » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:01 PM UTC

emp_zealoth wrote: post #280

apetresc wrote: post #202

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One person saying "They've finally jumped the shark this time, it's a totally useless device." And then at the next sales-record-breaking keynote, repeat.

You mean like with the watch gizmo? Or the tv gizmo? This is just overpriced toy, inferior to it's counterparts, but sure, it will sell, thanks to it's swag factor. (Outside of US of A and UK you only see apple stuff on very particular kind of people, the ones that gleefully spend 10x the money on a LV bag, just to rub it in other's faces. Having apple stuff is hip, nothing to do with any sort of usability) Eventuall…

I live in New Zealand, so not USA or UK. I often coffee at the local university, and sitting there surrounded by poor (but cool) students it is shocking how many of them are using Macbooks. Seriously, you hardly ever see a laptop without a huge glowing apple logo.

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Post by robotresearcher » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

cyrus_ wrote: post #351

ape4 wrote: post #109

I know this is petty, but every time I see an Apple demo and they are saying how many inches the screen is I think - wow that's a really uncool and old fashioned system of measures. If Apple can force standards - like Thunderbolt - how about using centimeters. Edit: they can even say they invented the metric system - ok with me ;)

Apple is a US company and the keynote is in the US. Inches are not considered "uncool" nor "old fashioned" in the US. The US tried switching to metric many years ago, but it didn't work. I'm sure their localized advertising for other countries lists the dimensions in metric units.

Nope. The UK and German stores give e.g. iPad Air 2 thickness in mm, weight in grams and screen size in inches.

They are sticking to inches deliberately for screen measurement. They even use the German 9,7" instead of the US/UK 9.7" so it's not that they forgot to translate.

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Post by dhimes » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

cake wrote: post #192

bigtunacan wrote: post #135

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

I agree, so much useless stuff here. Long gone are the days when Apple produced powerful and exciting new Macs. Now they are catching up and behind... I think my next computer will be a PC again.

Eh, the pc world ain't that great either.

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Post by erispoe » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

nawitus wrote: post #368

zerohm wrote: post #300

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Yes, they are playing catch up in the cover keyboard and stylus categories. However, they are still dominating mobile, revamping their TV line, and growing in a shrinking PC market. Oh and also they just released a pretty successful watch. Just saying, I think Apple is still a pretty innovative company.

How do you define dominating mobile? There are far more Android smartphones.

iOS has a 14% market share

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Post by robterrell » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:03 PM UTC

ThomPete wrote: post #276

JeremyBanks wrote: post #267

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https://developer.apple.com/programs/enterprise/ Enterprise customers can already sign their own apps for internal use.

Yeah but still sandbox restrictions no?

What sandbox restrictions exactly? Enterprise apps are signed and distribution is typically limited to members of the the organization, which is what you'd expect from an enterprise app program. Enterprise apps don't go through apple approvals so you could use private APIs if you wanted to.

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Post by mappu » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:04 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #235

bcoates wrote: post #46

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It's literally not a general purpose computer, you can't compile and execute code on it. DOS at least came with an assembler-debugger and a linker.

What version of DOS was this? I seem to remember MASM being a rather expensive piece of software which didn't ship with DOS.

It came with DEBUG for an assembler. I can't back up the linker statement.

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Post by rw2 » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 9:04 PM UTC

Mac got this product completely wrong. We needed a tablet that runs Mac OS that we can use for work not a bigger iOS form factor. One of the worst product decision I've seen Apple make.