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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by abritinthebay »

Someone1234 wrote: post #195
dragonwriter wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but it fires shots across the bow of also increasingly popular Chromebooks which are around this price point. The price point is more like (a little under) the at-release Surface Pro than popular Chromebooks (its a little cheaper than the Chromebook Pixel, but that's not really the big seller -- the popular models are at the low end.) Both by form factor and price, this seems more to be competing more with the big…

While the Pro 3 was slightly more expensive, if you include the keyboard cover and pen, I'd argue this is much more expensive (included pen & $120 for the cover/keyboard, Vs. $99 + $170). And the Pro 3's pen/drawing experience has received pretty good reviews after some early software jitters.

To be fair you'd have to include the Pro 3's keyboard cover in that too - $120.

Also the Surface stylus isn't in the same league. So you'd have to compare to something like the N-Trig stylus which is an extra $50.

Cheaper? Yes, though I'd say the Apple ones are better quality (especially looking at the keyboard cover).

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Post by comex »

striking wrote: post #194
gress wrote: post #72

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This is flatly false. There are numerous programming environments available on iOS, and it has the JavaScript environment with the most advanced available JIT built in.

Wrong. https://www.bignerdranch.com/blog/javascriptcore-example/ JavaScriptCore is what Apple uses for built in JS evaluation, and V8 can't be implemented due to lack of execution of code from user-writable memory. JSC most definitely does not have the "most advanced available JIT."

Depends on the benchmark. It's certainly competitive. For example:

http://arewefastyet.com/#machine=29

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Post by cookiecaper »

hashberry wrote: post #207
jff wrote: post #47

Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

It is so crazy how this is the PC wars all over again. Apple comes out of the gate with huge marketshare, begins to lose it due to their insufferable snobbery, panics and tries to copy everyone without alienating their base of insufferable snobs and with frilly copies that only the kool-aid drinkers fall for, and continues its descent into irrelevance. Will Samsung have to save Apple from extinction in 10 years in order to keep the DOJ off its back? Stay tuned.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by dragonwriter »

adevine wrote: post #204
bigtunacan wrote: post #186

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One what? It's unclear what you are trying to convey with this post.

One that suggests that, because you personally don't love the Apple-announced product, that Apple is shit and "needs a wake up call". It's not THAT hard to see that a lot of people will like these products, and Apple will sell a shit-ton of them.

Well, in that case, the word "Apple" is really unnecessary. That's true in pretty much every product announcement thread.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by rsynnott »

bcoates wrote: post #46
rimantas wrote: post #30

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Care to explain, why do you have multitasking in quotes? You think iOS is some version of DOS?

It's literally not a general purpose computer, you can't compile and execute code on it. DOS at least came with an assembler-debugger and a linker.

What version of DOS was this? I seem to remember MASM being a rather expensive piece of software which didn't ship with DOS.

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Post by outworlder »

roymurdock wrote: post #176
zxcvcxz wrote: post #156

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I just want someone to explain the $99 stylus. What's so special about it?

It's like the $80 magsafe charger. Thing probably costs $3 to manufacture and distribute, but good luck using your macbook without one. Simple price gouging, but most customers are happy to pay.

It doesn't cost $3. Not even an iPad charger costs are that low.

Of course, no brand chargers made in China could reach that price point but one just have to do a Hacker News search to figure out what they are sacrificing.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by jagger27 »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #205
jefflinwood wrote: post #10

Exciting to see the Apple Pencil/Smart Keyboard - this appears to be very similar to the Surface Pro 3, leaving the ball in Microsoft's court for their Surface Pro 4. (Leaving aside all the differences in software)

You can't really compare them without talking about the software, though. The Surface runs a full desktop OS in addition to tablet-style apps while the iPad Pro can only run iOS apps... making the Surface better for media/content creation and the iPad Pro better for consumption. The Surface also has an active digitizer compared to the passive one in the iPad Pro for better sensitivity, resolution, and accuracy.... un…

What's truly funny is that Surface Pro can run OS X with a bit (actually, a lot) of fiddling.

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Post by zenir »

austenallred wrote: post #138
hexasquid wrote: post #125

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In context Jobs was talking about getting them, putting them away and losing them.

"How are we going to communicate with this? We don't want to carry around a mouse, so what are we going to do? Oh, a stylus, right? We're going to use a stylus? No. Who wants a stylus? You have to get them, put them away, you lose them, yuck. So let's not use a stylus. We're going to use the best pointing device in the world; a pointing device that we're all born with - we're born with ten of them. We're going to use…

I didn't know apple invented multi-touch.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

hashberry wrote: post #207
jff wrote: post #47

Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

In all fairness I know many people who love to draw on the Surface and really wanted a more precise pen type of input on the iPad; I think this was a long time coming and really necessary.

The keyboard cover thing? Sure I could agree with you on that. I actually think Surface did a better job with it especially with the adjustable kickstand but we'll see when I can actually touch and play with the iPad Pro one.

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