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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

> It’s right out of the Steve Jobs handbook: something you don’t offer is a > terrible idea, until you offer it yourself, at which point you explain why your > solution is the first to get it right. --Jon Gruber, Daring Fireball

If you think a feature is a terrible idea then you shouldn't offer it. And if the technology or context changes sufficiently for you to change your mind then you should start offering it. This is just good product design. But I guess if you word it that way then you cant heavily imply that Jobs was a liar.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In context Jobs was talking about a stylus as the only/primary input for the device, meaning you would be required to have a stylus to ever use the device. Of course that would be terrible. This stylus is an optional accessory with a very specific use case. A fundamentally different thing.

Not sure you are completely correct there, as he said it repeatedly in many contexts. "It's like we said on the iPad, if you see a stylus, they blew it." - Steve Jobs edited to add - "as soon as you have a stylus, you're dead. " - Steve Jobs

That is a direct quote from Jobs. "If you see a stylus, they blew it." You can say that Jobs' aversion to styluses was a little stronger than it should have been due to the devices he'd seen with styluses, but his stated opinion was not this moderate "Styluses shouldn't be mandatory" stance people are trying to ascribe to him here.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

So, if you don't want one, don't buy it. It's optional and cost $100. Would Steve have changed his mind on them 8 years later?

Of course, he would... I bet all iPads in the future will have an optional stylus. Hopefully, the phones too.

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The iPad Pro is going to be available in November — 32GB for $799, 64GB for $949 and 128GB for $1,079. The $1,079 comes with Wi-Fi and cellular. The keyboard is going to cost $169 and the stylus is going to cost $99 — magic isn’t cheap. Can someone explain this absurd pricing strategy to me?

I just want someone to explain the $99 stylus. What's so special about it?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets. This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way". It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it. Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, the…

$1000 gets you a powerful high end laptop in terms of hardware. You might be sacrificing build quality at that price though, but you can get good specs for that.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

My girlfriend have me have already decided to get one so we can watch Iplayer and YouTube in bed. We already use an iPad but our number one complaint is its too small!

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

For navigating and general use on a 3.5" screen, he was dead on. For drawing on a screen of any size, especially a 12" one, the stylus makes plenty of sense.

heh, I have a note 4, with an integrated stylus. I love the thing. I'm more accurate and faster typing on the keyboard with it then I am with my thumbs, and it's a toss when swype style stuff guesses right. If I have to reswype a word, I would've been faster using the stylus
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