Live data from Hacker News

Google’s look, evolved

googleblog.blogspot.com

321–330 of 447 posts

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure where you think taste comes from besides evolution of ideas and data analysis done by black-box functions inside people's heads. Formalizing that process and using externally-collected data is just de-black-boxing something that happens in a black-box form in the professional's mind.

Also, making decisions based on wishy-washy difficult-to-quantify human traits like "genius" and "sense of taste" seems unnecessarily risky, compared to making them based on measurements from repeatable tests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_committee

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#322
post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it wasn't designed by an evolutionary algorithm; it was designed by a genius typographer who trusted his own sense of taste.

I'm not sure where you think taste comes from besides evolution of ideas and data analysis done by black-box functions inside people's heads. Formalizing that process and using externally-collected data is just de-black-boxing something that happens in a black-box form in the professional's mind.

When a company is capable of replicating those black-box functions as an algorithm or business process, then it will be ready to launch the era of automated design.

Until then, the best known way to design something nice is to hire a talented designer and trust their instincts.

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#323
post #198

Google's userinterface, in gmail.com, at least, has gotten progressively worse, and worse, and worse, and worse since its inception in my experience and everyone I've asked about this. ... don't know what else to say. I question if their designers use their own products. Latest bugs worth mentioning: Chrome still has an issue that can cause microphone to not work in Hangouts. Gmail.com has added a "Your plug-in googl…

Google maps is incredibly frustrating to use. I can't understand what user testing they do.

Google Maps on the iPhone really is awful. Sometimes you swipe to close something, sometimes you click a teeny tiny little x, sometimes you click a left arrow as in going back.

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#325
post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true for McDonald's, but certainly not the other three.

All of them has a favicon which is also a part of their logo.

But all three logos were designed and introduced at the same time as their corresponding favicon. Your claim was that the favicon was just a copy of an existing part of the logo.

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#326
post #309
post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why does adding "?" work at getting a different logo? not a web guy here

I'm not sure how it works at Google, but adding a random query string usually helps because of how proxy servers handle caching. Proxy servers usually treat an URL with different query string as different resource and cache them separately (e.g. /posts?page=2 is definitely not the same as /posts?page=1). This is not only applies to caching by ISP, but also includes caching by the website itself as well (some websites…

interesting, thanks!

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#327

Google's userinterface, in gmail.com, at least, has gotten progressively worse, and worse, and worse, and worse since its inception in my experience and everyone I've asked about this. ... don't know what else to say. I question if their designers use their own products. Latest bugs worth mentioning: Chrome still has an issue that can cause microphone to not work in Hangouts. Gmail.com has added a "Your plug-in googl…

Have they added a way to select which microphone to use yet? I mean a way to do it outside of an active call.

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#328
post #299
post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new one probably not populated to all their location yet, but adding a random query string does the trick. https://www.google.com/favicon.ico?newlogo (I'm seeing a four-colors capitalize G.)

why does adding "?" work at getting a different logo? not a web guy here

Anything after "?" is a query parameter that the server can read and then apply additional logic to for a response. In this case, they have code that responds to new logo and returns the new logo instead of the previous one.

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#329
post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of them has a favicon which is also a part of their logo.

But all three logos were designed and introduced at the same time as their corresponding favicon. Your claim was that the favicon was just a copy of an existing part of the logo.

Your claim was that a favicon could be a different font than in the logo. But these examples are all a part of the logos. Google would have needed to rebrand their logo to do the same.

Re: Google’s look, evolved

#330
post #206
post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google maps is incredibly frustrating to use. I can't understand what user testing they do.

What changes would you make to Google Maps, with a basic set of assumptions? (let's say, you can't dramatically increase the cost, you can't hurt Google revenue sources, and you have a team of ~20 engineers to work on the changes).

Vector tiles that work with trackpads correctly. (try to use two fingers on a trackpad to zoom in, and compare that to https://www.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/examples/).

Also, the new faux-3d effect in the satellite imagery is really irritating.

Post reply on HN