IPv6 is the powerful tools over the GFW
“Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
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#472On this note, we've been trying to upload gigabytes of data via rsync from Europe to China (we are software company who are trying to deliver tools to our Chinese customers..). Connection used to be fast when it was night time in China, but lately the connection has been really slow or unusable. Is there any alternative way to get lots of packages from Western countries to China?
The recent congestion is caused by the price reducing of ISPs demanded by the government. A lot of customers upgraded their bandwidth without paying additional money. This makes the already busy cables out of bandwidth.
Back to your question, the answer is YES, use a proxy, which is less expensive, or buy a dedicated private virtual line from a Chinese ISP, which is more stable.
You can setup a fast proxy by carefully selecting the routing path. Nowadays, the CN2 cable (http://www.ctamericas.com/content.asp?pl=627&sl=637&contenti...) is a good choice.
Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
#473Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
#474as a sidenote I encourage all people with talent to leave countries with suppressive regimes. I think they should be erased from their position. One way to do that is to encourage everyone to leave their country. One can argue that staying in a bad country may one day help to build it up again, but on the other hand, nothing hurts bad people in power more than complete brain drain.
> as a sidenote I encourage all people with talent to leave countries with suppressive regimes. All countries have oppressive regimes. Some are just moreso than others, and some target different people than others. This is utterly destructive thinking, anyway. If the only hope, the only spark for change, flees, then there can never be improvement.
> All countries have oppressive regimes.
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#475Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but from the same commenter earlier: "I want to try this api on MAC OS 10.11. I understand the reason why I need to ask apple for some permission to publish the app with this api to app store, but I can't believe that I have to ask them for permission to run this api on my development machine."
It's possible that commenter is misguided. The documentation on NETunnelProviderManager[1] says it needs the extension and that you should send an email to get it, but there's no indication as to whether there's anything stopping you from granting yourself this entitlement on a development machine (obviously Apple needs to approve it for an app on the MAS; I don't know what limitations there are for non-MAS apps in t…
Where by "extension" I of course meant to say "entitlement".
Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
#476I was visiting China recently (my first time there). I thought bypassing The Great Firewall was going to be as simple as an "ssh -D" SOCKS setup, or a "ssh -w" tunnel. Oh boy, I was wrong. If you try this, or even a basic OpenVPN setup, you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out. After some research I read onlin…
"you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out"
I recall the same thing occurring in Shanghai with many of the popular webmail services, they'd work briefly, usually just long enough to log in and get a glimpse at an inbox, then it would time out endlessly and that'd be it.
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#477Earlier quoted context omitted.
Copy it to an AWS EC2 Japan server, and copy it to China from Japan. I have transferred 1T data from Europe to China with this method.
Why Japan (as a location) is special? GFW does not affect traffic from Japan that much?
It's also effected by GFW. Some Japanese IDCs connect China through CN2 cable which is not so busy right now.
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#478So how did the Chinese police find clowwindy? His contact information doesn't look readily available online. Did Chinese authorities contact Github, which readily complied with information that led to him being located?
It's really not that hard for the cops to track down someone in China. Besides, clowwindy didn't take any precautions before. I believe clowwindy once revealed the company he worked for.
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#479Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't need everyone to leave, just a relentlessly growing percentage. At some point the system starts to crack, and either they relent or it breaks. In the USA, there is the fundamental notion of "consent of the governed" - if enough people won't submit, the government cannot function.
When it comes to capital China is actively preventing people with money from leaving; and even putting pressure on family members of people who have left in order bring them and, more importantly, their money back.
Well, in the cases I have heard of the money was stolen from the Chinese people so it seems understandable that they want it back.
Also, Chinese are not prevented from leaving the country, que the opposite. Enormous efforts have been spent in sending a lot of student abroad and bringing foreign teachers in (I have been one of them). The thing is for most people here not being able to Facebook is of minor importance compared to access to cheap and good food, secure cities and an environment where they don't feel people look down on them. So, many Chinese students come back to China after abroad studies, despite all the problems in China, and amongst them GFW is the last important.
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#480Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's for business of course, mainly international companies I guess. Local companies don't need to cross the firewall. Employees can only use these lines in the office. Actually most Chinese are not aware of the existence of the Great Firewall (GFW), really bad.
In the tech field, everyone is very very aware. I can't speak about other fields though. In my experience, pretty much anyone who is middle class or above knows about it. Granted middle class and above is only about 300 million of the almost 1.4 billion people -- so very much a minority. Granted China is huge and I mainly move in tech circles so YMMV. It's not just international companies. Chinese companies are all a…
Thanks for your info. As a graduate student major in civil engineering in China, people around me come across the firewall when they need Google Scholar, which is rare also. Sometimes they come to me for help to get access to sites like Google Scholar. But, believe me, they don't care about what is GFW or anything about the censorship. yes, the big brother is watching and they want to be good netizens. Traditional industries like CE don't depend on internet much, so GFW does not have much influences on them. Even to programmers in internet companies, I doubt the proportion of people accessible to the free internet.
Above is based on personal experiences and may not be that precise. Things are complicated in China anyway.