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Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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That is way to utilitarian for my liking. I am also personally convinced that Hitler (sorry ) was good for the western world in the long run (I think the lesson learnt will have more impact in the long run than the damage done), but you won't ever see me defending anything like the third reich.

Don't worry. In a thread w/300+ comments a hitler reference was inevitable. Real question is whether humanity is capable of learning the lesson about war in the modern age. Nukes make it so that no leader can start a war without risking their own life. Sending others to their doom is much easier, especially when there's the potential to profit. Censorship on the other hand is a sign of weakness/fear and is eventually…

> In a thread w/300+ comments a hitler reference was inevitable

Indeed -- it's Godwin's Law[1]!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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On this note, we've been trying to upload gigabytes of data via rsync from Europe to China (we are software company who are trying to deliver tools to our Chinese customers..). Connection used to be fast when it was night time in China, but lately the connection has been really slow or unusable. Is there any alternative way to get lots of packages from Western countries to China?

If this happens day to day, you may consider opening a subsidiary in China, with applying for special network. Foreign company in China can have network without GFW.

There's no "special network", it's just plan old VPN.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

#383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is way to utilitarian for my liking. I am also personally convinced that Hitler (sorry ) was good for the western world in the long run (I think the lesson learnt will have more impact in the long run than the damage done), but you won't ever see me defending anything like the third reich.

So the murder of 8 million innocent people in gas chambers justified the means of teaching us a "lesson?" That is the sickest thing I've ever heard on here. That attitude is right up there with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. You aren't defending the third reich, you're worse; you're intellectualizing the "value" of Hitler. Millions of people killed. Babies grabbed from their mothers and stomped under bootheels. People diss…

You misunderstood me. What you said was exactly my point: Just because something bad leads to something good, that doesn't make it good itself.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

#384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is way to utilitarian for my liking. I am also personally convinced that Hitler (sorry ) was good for the western world in the long run (I think the lesson learnt will have more impact in the long run than the damage done), but you won't ever see me defending anything like the third reich.

I like how the guy who thinks Hitler was a good thing because the war he caused spurred a great number of technological (including, incidentally, the nuclear bomb) and societal advances found something that was too utilitarian for his taste after all.

I think by "lessons learnt" he meant learning about the dangers of fascim, racism, nationalism, etc. Not necessarily technological advances.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #104

On this note, we've been trying to upload gigabytes of data via rsync from Europe to China (we are software company who are trying to deliver tools to our Chinese customers..). Connection used to be fast when it was night time in China, but lately the connection has been really slow or unusable. Is there any alternative way to get lots of packages from Western countries to China?

Use Chinese CDN (such as Upyun, Baidu CDN, Qiniu and Aliyun) for http file downloading (with a subdomain provided by the CDN or you'll need to apply permissions at MIIT as ICP) instead of rsync or ssh tunnel. Or rsync your data to Japanese Servers (Linode, GMO, etc) and ask your customers to download through http or https.

The problem is to upload data to China, we are not downloading anything from there.

"Or rsync your data to Japanese Servers (Linode, GMO, etc) and ask your customers to download through http or https."

We've used Amazon CDN before even for Chinese customers and they have closest node in Hong Kong - they still(Chinese) have difficulties to download our packages. I doubt using Japanese server would solve our problem. Thanks anyway.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #181

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Funny you mention it, we are actually uploading to the server in Aliyun cloud services. Completely unusable :(

lol.. I would have thought they have the fastest data center.

It probably is _inside_ China. :)

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

#387

I seldom wonder; what is that the Chinese government aims to gain from all this oppression? What any government hopes to gain? North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, China, Russia (?) etc....What exactly do they want?

Like most governments around the world, they tend to think that "change = defeat". The US, UK, Canadian, and Australian governments are not really any better in this respect. They don't really understand the internet, and are therefore (sometimes justifiably) frightened by it. Governments, by definition, are meant to "Govern". Most see that the the rules of governance that they, as experts, have defined, should be "T…

Spot on! Governments are shit scared of the internet, probably even more than terrorists, probably because internet is a tool for the mind. A free mind has boundless optimism and spirit, and an oppressor cannot reign over such a mind.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #104

On this note, we've been trying to upload gigabytes of data via rsync from Europe to China (we are software company who are trying to deliver tools to our Chinese customers..). Connection used to be fast when it was night time in China, but lately the connection has been really slow or unusable. Is there any alternative way to get lots of packages from Western countries to China?

Copy it to an AWS EC2 Japan server, and copy it to China from Japan. I have transferred 1T data from Europe to China with this method.

Why Japan (as a location) is special? GFW does not affect traffic from Japan that much?

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #282

This feels rather suspicious to me. Either the police are complete idiots (because people have forked his code and you can still get it from the forks) or there is more to the story. It would make more sense to just send a DMCA takedown for that plus all forks to ensure that the streisand effect doesn't come into play. Because now I gotta grab a fork and squirrel it away - even though I'm in the US I feel like this i…

The code is still easy to find, but they threatened the main developer so he won't work on it anymore. I think they won this round.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

#390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the murder of 8 million innocent people in gas chambers justified the means of teaching us a "lesson?" That is the sickest thing I've ever heard on here. That attitude is right up there with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. You aren't defending the third reich, you're worse; you're intellectualizing the "value" of Hitler. Millions of people killed. Babies grabbed from their mothers and stomped under bootheels. People diss…

You misunderstood me. What you said was exactly my point: Just because something bad leads to something good, that doesn't make it good itself.

Don't worry, chronial, the meaning of your post was crystal clear.
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