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post #120

As a Chinese developer, I got more and more disappointed to my country. I'd read a book written by LinYutang, called My Country and My People. All my understandings of my country after reading this book are not same as nowaday China. What's wrong? I don't know. I just wanna have freedom for Googleing. I just wanna the people in this country be happy not only because they get enough to eat.

In what way has that book changed your way of thinking?

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This is the end of a century. People in China had used 4 kinds of tools to skip the GFW: freegate, openvpn, goagnet, shadowsocks. freegate is a traditional http proxy or socks proxy built by Falun Gong ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong ). They built lots of software with the same technology: freegate gpass freeu dynapass... People share this kind of banned software sending to each others just like teenagers…

> That's all. The winter of China's network comes.

Is there technical reason to believe that shadowsocks or similar technology is the last stand against automated censorship?

I would just say this is just yet another stage in the censorship/anti-censorship cycle.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't there a dozen of bugtrackers, intranet collaboration software, CI tools and git hostings that they could download and install? What's so special with the Atlassian products?

those sucks a little less than, say, bugtraq, offer enterprise support on premises which you'd never use but you need to do the purchasing when you go for a big company and kind of have a big recognized name for their customization support even if their whole stack sucks.

I think the "enterprise support on premisses" is the main deal, along with the fact that we have already used it for some of our big projects.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #104

On this note, we've been trying to upload gigabytes of data via rsync from Europe to China (we are software company who are trying to deliver tools to our Chinese customers..). Connection used to be fast when it was night time in China, but lately the connection has been really slow or unusable. Is there any alternative way to get lots of packages from Western countries to China?

Somewhat anecdotal, but try IPv6.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #54

I was visiting China recently (my first time there). I thought bypassing The Great Firewall was going to be as simple as an "ssh -D" SOCKS setup, or a "ssh -w" tunnel. Oh boy, I was wrong. If you try this, or even a basic OpenVPN setup, you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out. After some research I read onlin…

Sounds like an overseas vendor needs to drop a blanket of satellite internet coverage over mainland China.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #175
post #54

I was visiting China recently (my first time there). I thought bypassing The Great Firewall was going to be as simple as an "ssh -D" SOCKS setup, or a "ssh -w" tunnel. Oh boy, I was wrong. If you try this, or even a basic OpenVPN setup, you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out. After some research I read onlin…

Sounds like an overseas vendor needs to drop a blanket of satellite internet coverage over mainland China.

Sounds like you live in a world where you didn't notice that China became the second most powerful economy, and which will become the most powerful economy within a decade or so. Of course they're going to have the military to go with that:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_...

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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I was visiting China recently (my first time there). I thought bypassing The Great Firewall was going to be as simple as an "ssh -D" SOCKS setup, or a "ssh -w" tunnel. Oh boy, I was wrong. If you try this, or even a basic OpenVPN setup, you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out. After some research I read onlin…

I am in Iran , you cannot believe it , same here , They use deep packet inspection too, they will shut every package down. every open vpn , cisco vpn , etc connection will lose connection every 2-3 min . Connection to outside web is almost impossible. I have noticed they have multiple situation, for example when everything's quiet internet is not so bad (despite the fact bandwidth is extremely low for huge amount of…

wish you all the best. I pay 5$ for a digitalocean droplet to provide my family in Iran with an OpenVPN connection. This works quite well, we do not have any issues so far.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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as a sidenote I encourage all people with talent to leave countries with suppressive regimes. I think they should be erased from their position. One way to do that is to encourage everyone to leave their country. One can argue that staying in a bad country may one day help to build it up again, but on the other hand, nothing hurts bad people in power more than complete brain drain.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #54

I was visiting China recently (my first time there). I thought bypassing The Great Firewall was going to be as simple as an "ssh -D" SOCKS setup, or a "ssh -w" tunnel. Oh boy, I was wrong. If you try this, or even a basic OpenVPN setup, you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out. After some research I read onlin…

> Encryption is not enough. I use an unencrypted PPTP VPN and the connection is really fast and stable here (Shenzhen, China Telecom). I have tried OpenVPN and ssh but both were much slower. FWIW, I don't believe using a VPN is illegal in China (though operating a VPN service without a license most likely is) and pretty much every single foreigner I know uses one.

PPTP is not secure. You need to open another, more secure, tunnel within your PPTP session.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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> I have no choice but to obey. Did he ask a lawyer? Because it looks to me there are two possibilities. One, he was not doing anything illegal in which case the police had no authority to stop his activities. Two, he was indeed doing something illegal in which case he can be glad he got out of it with what appears to be only a warning.

In China, the legal system works like this:

you are innocent, you have done nothing illegal, but the big brothers think differently.

So they first lock you up, if you are popular and the world is watching while they are locking you up, they will conjure up a charge like tax-evasions or conducting business scams [see AiWeiWei's charges] and make you suffer jail time chance fighting back. But in case you are not popular and the world didn't know you before incident happens, you will simply disappear. [see 'countless' dissidents' disappearing since 2013]

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