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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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This reads like a good example of how prestige brands flatten people critical faculties. :-) "A lot of love for Apple" is not evidence of wisdom or merit. It is evidence that Apple has been extraordinarily successful at converting ordinary consumer electronics into a moral aesthetic identity for its customers... Once that happens, public praise stops being about products and starts being about selfregard. That is why…

You can do better than that

Oh yes, I can...

I remember the iPhone launch queues...as in the strangest ritual in consumer tech. People camping overnight for a device that will be sitting on shelves in unlimited quantities the following week. Like queueing up for a vacuum cleaner and pretending it's the moon landing.:-)

Oh the love for a company, with the battery gate ($500M settlement for throttling phones customers already owned), the CSAM on-device scanning proposal, a decade of Irish tax routing, active lobbying against right to repair, repeated supply chain findings on child and forced labor... and a CEO who hands Trump gold while going quiet on the causes Apple used to grandstand about.

So much much to love on this company. Its poised with assholery of Steve Jobs to its core, and has no salvation. If I want luxury, I buy a laptop from Cartier...

The worst is the tell that an all Apple setup is a the near perfect filter for not a hacker. The ecosystem is engineered against the instincts that define hacking, no sideloading without ceremony, no real repair, no low level access without fighting the OS, no running what you want without Apple permission, no swapping parts that haven't been blessed with the right serial number.

Its computing for consumers, not tinkerers. Which is fine, except the culture around it borrows the prestige of technical sophistication while actively opting out of it. :-)

The Mac in the coffee shop is a lifestyle object. The ThinkPad running Linux next to it is a tool.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Personally, I hope the lack of advertisements in Apple Maps comes bundled with the fact that I purchased an iPhone. A lack of ads is a selling point.

My comment was tongue in cheek. They are already here: https://ads.apple.com/maps Which means the only other option is to hopefully be able to pay Apple even more to not have to see ads. Maybe buy more Apple shares to share in this "advancement".

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

Short-term, I'm just hoping this means the AirPods Max (and Vision Pro too, I guess) get a redesign that ditches all the uncomfortably heavy metal shells.

They were touting ultralight ultra light thin metals for a while there, but never really followed up past the SIM ejection tools.

The main reason I haven’t purchased a Vision Pro is they have all sorts of glass on the front. I live alone and don’t need to share my eyes with an empty room, and even I did I would rather have a screen I could control to make a funny mask with. That screen is a step too far with not giving users control.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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re: US Politics, I view Apple's gift of the gold & glass trophy to Trump more as a humiliation ritual Cook had to endure so that they can continue to uphold their principles, but with a less adversarial government. Sure it's gross but it does not necessarily signal an abandonment of values from Apple.

Disagree. Cook shows up to dinner parties with Trump all the time. I think he genuinely feels solidarity with the Epstein class.

Disagree. Trump is 100% willing and apparently able to crush American businesses unless they kneel. If watching a movie and giving him a gold toilet seat bought off that extortionist it was probably the cheapest any tech firm got off. Cook made the right call not to let Apple get destroyed by our whimsical overlord.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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I'm genuinely curious why you think Apple software is terrible?

They re-write many apps every few years as part of their major design changes. These re-writes inevitably introduce lots of little bugs in uncommon workflows, and they often jettison whole features like AppleScript integration that cause real problems with users. They then spend a couple of years fixing the worst of these bugs, and things die down. Until the next UI-driven re-write.

I will admit they change and depreciate APIs like crazy, but do you have any examples of features or AppleScript being jettisoned that were not fixed? The issue that stands out to me was the once in 17 year 2019 cut-off for 32 bit apps with a lacking Quicktime X and Final Cut X, but even then the plan then was to get everything back up to snuff quickly.

I read a Gruber article recently that when Messages went Catalyst he had no issues with his AppleScript at all.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Hopefully the Neo is the beginning of Apple making useful and affordable products for all users, instead of walling their garden to squeeze out every last penny via Cook's 'premium'-upwards-screwdriver tactics ... the history of market-dynamics suggests otherwise, but let's hope and wait there's a mindset change as well.

> making useful and affordable products for all users, Affordable, ethical. You can only choose one.

Interesting, but is Apple as ethical yet as its premium price point could suggest? Fairphone (material sourcing) and Framework (repairability) would suggest otherwise.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Disagree. Cook shows up to dinner parties with Trump all the time. I think he genuinely feels solidarity with the Epstein class.

Disagree. Trump is 100% willing and apparently able to crush American businesses unless they kneel. If watching a movie and giving him a gold toilet seat bought off that extortionist it was probably the cheapest any tech firm got off. Cook made the right call not to let Apple get destroyed by our whimsical overlord.

Yet he keeps going to his parties and schmoozing with his cronies. I don't recall Pichai or Nadella giving Trump a gold trinket to save their businesses.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

These reports seem unhelpful unless you specify the date at which you had this experience, as this thread is about continuous improvement over time.

Not even a month ago, according to my IM logs it was during the last week of March 2026.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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His legacy is he used Apple to help build China into a technological powerhouse at the expense of American workers. https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/06/17/g-s1-72...

That's a pretty reductive take.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/23/opinion/apple-tim-cook-ou...

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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His legacy is he used Apple to help build China into a technological powerhouse at the expense of American workers. https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/06/17/g-s1-72...

Can you say the same for tesla or cisco?

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/23/opinion/apple-tim-cook-ou...
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