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John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by pzo »

chatmasta wrote: post #362
pzo wrote: post #338

I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…

What about Apple Silicon?

yes they innovated with apple sillicon but I would say it only shines in macOS environment. On iOS / iPadOS it's completely untapped - like having ferrari with only gravel roads around.

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Post by kenferry »

apple4ever wrote: post #230
gabbagool wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely curious why you think Apple software is terrible?

Because there are so many bugs that it makes me wonder if Apple Execs ever use their own software. For example, on MacOS, you can set an app to be on all spaces. But on reboot, despite that setting, it will stick to a single space, until you relaunch the app. It has been this way for 4-5 major OS versions. There are PLENTY of examples just like that.

Well, if you're asking if apple execs use that setting, the answer is probably that they don't.

I think the issue is that there are SO many piled up little features everywhere that SOMEone is using that keeping everything working while making any changes at all is very difficult.

I am a fan of more wood behind fewer swings. Don't add something like spaces unless you think you've got something so good that you are confident that it will be the common path.

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Post by BitwiseFool »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #171
al_borland wrote: post #45

I’m curious Ternus’ views on services and the heavy hand Cook has had with them. I’d like to see Apple chill out a bit. Have them, but stop pestering users with in-OS ads and notifications to sign up. It’s been very off putting and cheapens the platform.

I hope they sell a higher priced monthly Apple One bundle which allows people to pay extra to not see ads in Apple Maps. Can even make it multiple tiers for no ads in Apple TV and Apple Maps, or maybe privacy plus tiers so they can earn more money by not selling search history.

Personally, I hope the lack of advertisements in Apple Maps comes bundled with the fact that I purchased an iPhone. A lack of ads is a selling point.

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Post by mvkel »

dlahoda wrote: post #341
mvkel wrote: post #333

Cook is known to be monk-like, so the relative quiet of this announcement is no surprise. Hopefully Ternus takes some risks and revisits some things from scratch (the OS layer)[0] rather than continuing down the path of more service add-ons that Cook seemed to be excitedly geared up for. Personally, it's worth noting that Ternus did -not- directly oversee the Vision Pro, which is encouraging. [0] As Steve Jobs said i…

linux and windows are older. and mac has ios, which with ipads goes desktopy. (capability based security)

Right. We're not still running Windows Vista, or RedHat. Time for a rethink.

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Post by [deleted] »

oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

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Post by cageface »

fckgw wrote: post #92
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

Apple Maps is pretty fantastic

In the US. In many other countries it's borderline useless.

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Post by walterbell »

latexr wrote: post #376
krackers wrote: post #227

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There's some irony there in that the whole maps fiasco lead to firing of Forstall which allowed Ive to become head of design, which basically led to the current state of macOS design. I do wish that some day someone will tell the story of what happened during that time. Maps was bad at launch yes, but it also wouldn't get better without people contributing more data, and the fact that it took a decade to slowly impro…

Reportedly, Forstall wasn’t liked by the other senior execs but was kept “safe” as Jobs’ protégé, they thought alike and shared the love for skeuomorphism design. Ive in particular disliked Forstall, and Tim Cook made a choice. https://www.businessinsider.com/apples-minimalist-ive-assume...

Could Forstall potentially return under new Apple leadership?

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Post by BitwiseFool »

torben-friis wrote: post #377
mvkel wrote: post #333

Cook is known to be monk-like, so the relative quiet of this announcement is no surprise. Hopefully Ternus takes some risks and revisits some things from scratch (the OS layer)[0] rather than continuing down the path of more service add-ons that Cook seemed to be excitedly geared up for. Personally, it's worth noting that Ternus did -not- directly oversee the Vision Pro, which is encouraging. [0] As Steve Jobs said i…

>Cook is known to be monk-like How so? Genuinely curious, I've got no idea what he's like as a person.

>"I've got no idea what he's like as a person"

Case in point? From what I've read he's reserved, keeps a very low profile, and is dedicated to his work. We know next to nothing about his personal life.

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