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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by hobofan »

71bw wrote: post #654
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

This may just be my bubble, but even among my iPhone-owning friends, I haven't seen a single person use Apple Maps in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if the efforts to improve the map data have been more focused on the US.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by imhoguy »

oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

This. I just want Freeform usable on iPadOS again.

Since 26 upgrade it is unusable with 100+ notes. It looks like they merged iOS variant with Macos one. Constant freezes, random unsaves, device gets boiling hot. No fix with factory reset. I love the HW but SW needs more love.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by spacebanana7 »

ebbi wrote: post #346
simplyluke wrote: post #237

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I'd also add that from the perspective of an employee in the industry, Tim Cook has had a remarkably steady hand throughout multiple business cycles in the industry that have made Apple a much better place to work than many of the other very large tech companies: no massive over-hiring after covid, no massive layoffs to correct for that, average tenure at the company BLOWS other companies out of the water, a reputati…

Agree. With the cash balance that Apple has, CEO's usually get tempted to make moves that let them flex, but he was very disciplined in that sense.

For example, Tim had the discipline to get out of the EV projects. Which was likely wise given the challenges the sector has faced in profitability, and Apple's long term outside option to accrue vehicular services revenue through CarPlay. Yet someone in his position could have burned $200B pretty easily to try and build a business there.

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Post by pjmlp »

pjerem wrote: post #645
dewey wrote: post #536

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I’m sure it’s amazing in California or the US. So often I think how much better products would be if the people responsible would have to use them for a week outside of the happy path. Example: Taking the airport train instead of a private driver and realizing there’s no luggage racks, staying in a regular hotel room and realizing there’s no light in front of the mirror, only behind you. So many examples like that on…

Another huge exemple : in most big cities in Europe you have special parking lots around big public transit hubs outside of the city where you can park for free as long as you continue your journey by public transit. In a lot of cities, that’s either the fastest or the most comfortable way to go somewhere in the city when you come from the outside. Not any single navigation app support this (tbf, the few European one…

I think you mean country/region capitals, or countries like Germany.

I can assert than this isn't a thing in most Portuguese big cities, although it would be great to have it.

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Post by mentalgear »

keepamovin wrote: post #649

This is one of the more broadly normal HN-reaction threads to large public news event I've seen in a while. A lot of love for Apple, respect for the decision, and respectfully stated nuance. Surprising and good. I still haven't scroll down to the bottom, I don't want to spoil my impression. But it's great to see a positive reaction. Good way to mark the moment. Tim has been CEO for 15 years roughly, since Steve's pas…

Hopefully the Neo is the beginning of Apple making useful and affordable products for all users, instead of walling their garden to squeeze out every last penny via Cook's 'premium'-upwards-screwdriver tactics ... the history of market-dynamics suggests otherwise, but let's hope and wait there's a mindset change as well.

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Post by OJFord »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #557
dvt wrote: post #426

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> I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. I vehemently disagree with this. I think Cook's logistics and business-focused goals are, if not diametrically opposed to Job's product obsession, at the very least orthogonal to it. Almost everything about Apple the product, over the past 15 years, has either coasted (e.g. stayed at par with the rest of the industry) or gotten worse. The one…

Airpods? They make more than most SaaS decacorns. How can you not credit that as a massive success that came out of nowhere?

Successful for the business no doubt, but they are an example of 'par with the rest of the industry' aren't they? Nothing market leading about them (except perhaps the price, heh) and not the first in the category, just one of a bunch of good options.

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Post by throwaway27448 »

pzo wrote: post #212
tchalla wrote: post #39

> Under Cook’s leadership Apple has grown from a market capitalization of approximately $350 billion to $4 trillion, representing a more than 1,000% increase, and yearly revenue has nearly quadrupled, from $108 billion in fiscal year 2011 to more than $416 billion in fiscal year 2025. Quite successful.

This is what’s all bad with us stocks and completely disconnected with market value: Revenue jumped 4x but market capitalization got inflated to 12x.

Do you think market cap should be proportional to revenue?

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Post by suprfnk »

steve_taylor wrote: post #558
VirusNewbie wrote: post #557

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Airpods? They make more than most SaaS decacorns. How can you not credit that as a massive success that came out of nowhere?

It's a stealth subscription product. People are losing those things all the time.

And if not losing, the battery dies in 2-3 years, so you'll have to buy new anyway.
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