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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by basisword »

smeeth wrote: post #22

I'm quite curious what Tim Cook's legacy will end up being. There is no question many of Apple's business experienced significant, impressive growth during his tenure. Amazing capital efficiency. There is also no question Apple lost product velocity. Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success. Tim was, at the end of the day, an elite financial operator. Apple shareholders were lucky to have…

>> Few new products were launched

I don't think this is true. Apple Watch is basically in a market of its own. iPad might have existed before Cook but he turned it into something people actually use for stuff. Vision Pro may not be a financial success but the tech is impressive and it's clear that work will pay off in the near term in other wearables. Apple Silicon is a phenomenal success. Apple TV is no longer a hobby and he's been at the helm while they've developed their entire services business. AirPods rule the headphone market. Not mention the numerous Mac variants he presided over.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by hedora »

elicash wrote: post #103
Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

> Apple software is terrible The Vision Pro software team did an incredible job. Its software is more impressive than its hardware.

Did they? Why don’t I see people using this product while driving, or even walking down the street?

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by charcircuit »

legitster wrote: post #78
Fr0styMatt88 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious as an outsider what you mean with US politics? Seems like Apple has a pretty strong stance when it comes to things like privacy that pushes back on some things (that could be smoke and mirrors though I guess).

The privacy is more of a market position thing than it is a political thing. Apple has led the industry on hardware but is woefully behind on the software and services front. Focusing on device-level privacy controls turns what would be a gap into a moat, and it helps deprive Google and other services from monetizing their customer base. Not to say that it's not something the company is passionate about - but it's al…

>but is woefully behind on the software

iOS is ahead on software security compared to Android, Windows, Desktop Linux, etc.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by simplyluke »

danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

I'd also add that from the perspective of an employee in the industry, Tim Cook has had a remarkably steady hand throughout multiple business cycles in the industry that have made Apple a much better place to work than many of the other very large tech companies: no massive over-hiring after covid, no massive layoffs to correct for that, average tenure at the company BLOWS other companies out of the water, a reputation for a strong engineering culture

I say this as someone who hasn't worked there, but has a large number of friends and peers who currently do or have in recent years.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by mghackerlady »

w10-1 wrote: post #90

His letter (at the top of Apple's web site) is moving: https://www.apple.com/community-letter-from-tim/ I understand Tim is a logistics genius and Ternus is a hardware genius, and that we all want better software and policy from Apple, but I'm glad that there seems to be good people at the head of one of the biggest and most consequential companies, and further that they seem to care about being good people. As far a…

I really wish they did more for free software. I know they contribute heavily to LLVM and are still the main stewards of webkit, but they've very much ignored darwin as a free software operating system, to the point it feels like they only keep it free out of legal obligation

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by basisword »

kube-system wrote: post #95
fckgw wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success. Tim oversaw the launch of the Apple Watch, Airpods, Airtags, Apple Pay, the Beats acquisition (which lead to Apple Music) and the launch of the M series chips. He's had quite a few product launches under his belt, many of them company-defining products.

The M series transition was perfectly executed, but that trajectory was set up before Jobs left when they went all-in on in-house semiconductor design.

Come on. Attributing a product to a guy that died 15 years ago instead of the guy running the company for the last 15 years is absurd.
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