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Matrix solved federated messaging already
Is Matrix built into the default, stock messaging apps of Android and iOS? No, it's not, so it does not solve the problem I've posed in any useful way. (Beyond that, I've found the usability of Matrix on both desktop and mobile to be atrocious.)
In Europe it’s WhatsApp or Telegram all over. I have maybe four people I know I can reliably text on iMessage. This green vs blue bubble is rather an example of how self centered America is, always thinking its own big bubble is actually the world. In Tech that’s quite clear to see.
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SMS spam is real.
I've not had a single SMS/messaging spam message in the last decade. In the UK if that makes a difference, maybe we have effective laws around it? Not looked into it.
Most businesses, consumers, and developers universally continue to ignore the primary reason that iMessage is a closed platform, rather than an app on every platform as iTunes is: Apple is using device serial numbers for anti-spam, supported by a fully-authenticated hardware and software stack that does not allow user modification. This permits Apple to simply “console ban” any Apple device that spams on iMessage. Th…
There are literally multiple internal Apple emails released through court testimony where Apple executives clearly explain how important iMessage is to lock-in to iPhone and how if parents can just buy an Android and install an iMessage app it would mean disaster. In none of these emails is spam or privacy or security even mentioned. The primary reason Apple is doing it for platform lock-in, plain and simple. They li…
I’m genuinely interested. Do you have a link?
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> Is there any viable reason why Apple users use SMS so much? They don't. At least not in my experience. I have an iPhone, but there's about a 50/50 split ios/android in my friends and family. Group chats are almost entirely WhatsApp, and single messages are a blend of WhatsApp, iMessage and SMS. I probably use SMS/MMS once a week
As counterpoint, I am an Android user in the US, and 90%+ of my contacts are US-based iPhone users. While I do use Signal, WhatsApp, or GChat for nearly all of my group chats, I have 1-on-1 conversations over SMS daily, with quite a few people. I've managed to move a few of the 1-on-1 chats to Signal, but not many.
I wonder if that's a US based thing (I'm in NZ)?
Two systems are suboptimal for developers. It would be great if Apple and Google could get their heads together and find a way to interoperate. I don't mind the bubble colour... I'm OK with an Apple colour, Google colour, and an interoperable colour. It would be useful to signal what features might be available with each technology. What I would really like is for the interoperable solution to have a common API so I…
>What I would really like is for the interoperable solution to have a common API so I can programmatically sent a message to anyone No thanks, we don't want your spam.
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This is a lawyer excuse. I've had Signal for years and the number of spam messages I've received over it is none. It's not a real problem. SMS on the other hand... but iPhones receive SMS too, don't they?
I get like two spam SMS a year. And my SMS app always properly flags them as being spam/scams. This really is such a terrible excuse. It's also ignoring the root issue. Adding RCS to iMessages doesn't affect the spam. You'll still get it from both SMS and RCS. Apple not adding RCS is 100% due to keeping market share.
Consider yourself lucky. I get hundreds.
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The US market standardized on mobile plans with unlimited texting a long, long time ago, so I think this caused people to mostly stick to SMS/MMS for communication since it was the path of least resistance. I don't know what the situation in Europe is like now, but in the past I remember it being difficult to find plans without very small SMS caps when traveling. That could be why Europeans naturally gravitated towar…
Unlimited SMS plans have been a thing in western europe for the past 15 years, at least. People switched to whatsapp because you can send pictures, not only text.
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Network effect. SMS works everywhere, all phones support it out-of-the-box. WhatsApp is opt-in. Almost nobody I communicate with regularly has a WhatsApp account.
How do you SMS people without a USA phone number?
But as other comments mentioned, the number of people I "text" with regularly without a U.S. phone number / the ability to send and receive SMS is very small.