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I always thought iMessage was the dumbest thing. I’m abroad, I try to iMessage someone because I know it’s going to be free: oops, it downgrade to text and I end up paying. Or I’m on a bad wifi connection: oops, I will not use your signal and just block. In any case everybody I know uses whatsapp so I don’t think it’s a huge deal. Texts are for spams or restaurant waiting lists.
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Funny thing is the EU doesn't give a fuck and is going to force them.
I find it interesting how many HN'ers now think bureaucratic control of technology is a Good Thing(tm).
They don’t care, they want to make it inconvenient so we’ll all jump aboard the iShip. Until the bold image that Job’s left wears if in 30 years (give or take?) they’ll get away with it along with lightening ports and every other mediocre capitalization that makes them reminiscent of their previous cutting edge former self. Back then, their proprietarization at the very least helped drew their brand image.
Google pretending to be good guys as if there was any other major player they’d be helping out in this campaign was funny though.
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Speak for yourself; I LOVE texting my fellow-Android-owners with RCS. My photos don't get squashed a la MMS, sending multimedia Just Works, and typing/receipt indicators are lovely. Maybe the mobile operators are getting far bigger wins, but as an average person texting my friends, it's great.
I'm just annoyed that it's opt-in, and still seems to have some issues. I think I converse with exactly three other people who use Android. One of them works with RCS! Yay! The second hasn't enabled RCS for some reason. (Or he has -- I haven't asked him -- but for some reason the machinery in between hasn't figured out that we're both RCS-capable.) The third has enabled RCS, and the messages I send to him go over RCS…
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This is the most trivial complaint I've ever read. I'm in my 50s and I have zero problems reading green bubbles - it just means that it hasn't been sent via iMessage - if I send to an iPhone and sending falls back to SMS it looks just the same. I can't believe people get that upset about green v blue.
> I'm in my 50s and I have zero problems reading green bubbles Besides the other issues... as soon as I heard that adolescents and teens (i.e., hyper-self-conscious, wanting group acceptance, figuring out social status) would be appearing differently in chats with schoolmates, based on whether they used Apple or non-Apple... that sure is a way to sell them Apples.
And then they leave them plugged in at home and forward the messages to their Android device.
Just so that they show up as a blue bubble on their friends phones.
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It really is god-awful. RCS is a technology that benefits mobile operators, not users. Also, Google really aren't in a position to lecture anyone on this topic, given their N+1 approach to messaging services.
Speak for yourself; I LOVE texting my fellow-Android-owners with RCS. My photos don't get squashed a la MMS, sending multimedia Just Works, and typing/receipt indicators are lovely. Maybe the mobile operators are getting far bigger wins, but as an average person texting my friends, it's great.
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Google acting like RCS is the hot new standard is pretty disingenuous. In theory it's a standard, but in reality most carriers haven't been interested and haven't implemented it so the vast majority of RCS messages are routed through Google. I can't really blame Apple for not being interested in adopting a "standard" that's mostly Google pretending to be a standard.
RCS is infinitely better than the current state. Google isn't pretending it's a standard. They're trying to improve messaging between android and iphone uers. Apple won't because the current standard helps their business. It's pretty simple.
They call it “the modern industry standard” half a dozen times on the page. Zero mention of their affiliation.
Loved “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
What's really ridiculous is that Android is now parsing this and displaying a reaction bubble.
From what I’m seeing RCS just isn’t a true solution. Apple and Google should come together to create a standard outside of the carriers.
Do we really need a single standard? I and many others use multiple messaging services and it’s fine. Each has their pros and cons. I can also contact people in multiple ways if one service fails.
With an open, single, federated messaging standard that's integrated into the stock messaging app of every Android and Google phone, all of that just goes away. If people really want to use another app because it gives them some useful benefit, they can still choose to do so. But I want the default, universal messaging standard to be something that lets me send photos and videos without quality loss to the point that videos are unwatchable.
Most businesses, consumers, and developers universally continue to ignore the primary reason that iMessage is a closed platform, rather than an app on every platform as iTunes is: Apple is using device serial numbers for anti-spam, supported by a fully-authenticated hardware and software stack that does not allow user modification. This permits Apple to simply “console ban” any Apple device that spams on iMessage. Th…
I'd rather live in a world with spam than a world where corporations get to decide what I run on my devices, and cripple a bunch of critical applications if I decide I want to, y'know, actually do whatever I want with the hardware I own. I'm not unsympathetic to Apple's difficulties and goals here (assuming this spam problem is actually the reason, though I'm skeptical that there aren't also self-serving reasons that…