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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by pydry »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #335
pydry wrote: post #234

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The common denominator is big corporations trying to screw us over for profit, using their immense wealth as a battering ram. So, capitalism. It's taboo to criticize that though.

> It's taboo to criticize that though In what world is this taboo? That critique comes back in at least half the HN threads about AI. Watch any non-technical video about AI on Youtube and it will mention people being worried of the power of mega-corporations. Your take is about as taboo as wearing a Che Guevara tshirt.

In the world of the mainstream media - the default media diet of most americans excludes Hacker News, funnily enough.

All sorts of more taboo stuff gets said on hacker news. It's not exactly a cultural bellwether that ideas outside of the overton window are entertained here.

Wearing a che guevara t shirt is similarly "allowed" in public, but the last article about him in the new york times is fawning admiration for his assassin.

Criticism of capitalism is still taboo.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by graycat »

jiggawatts wrote: post #900
datahack wrote: post #894

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It’s probably generally irrelevant what they can do today, or what you’ve seen so far. This is conceptually essentially Moore’s law, but about every 5.5 months. That’s the only thing that matters at this stage. I watched everyone make the same arguments about the general Internet, and then the Web, then mobile, then Bitcoin. It’s just a toy. It’s not that useful. Is this supposed to be the revolution? It uses too muc…

Speaking of the iPhone, I just ugpraded to the 16 Pro because I want to try out the new Apple Intelligence features. As soon as I saw integrated voice+text LLM demos, my first thought was that this was precisely the technology needed to make assistants like Siri not total garbage. Sure, Apple's version 1.0 will have a lot of rough edges, but they'll be smoothed out. In a few versions it'll be like something out of St…

Many situations, prefer text to voice. Text: Easier record keeping, manipulation, search, editing, ....

With some irony, the Hacker News user interface is essentially all just simple text.

A theme in current computer design seems to be: Assume the user doesn't use a text editor and, instead, needs an 'app' for every computer interaction. Like cars for people who can't drive, and a car app for each use of the car -- find a new BBQ restaurant, need a new car app.

Sorry, Silicon Valley, with text anyone who used a typewriter or pocket calculator can do more and have fewer apps and more flexibility, versatility, generality.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

datahack wrote: post #894
Animats wrote: post #666

I'm tired of LLMs. Enough billions of dollars have been spent on LLMs that a reasonably good picture of what they can and can't do has emerged. They're really good at some things, terrible at others, and prone to doing something totally wrong some fraction of the time. That last limits their usefulness. They can't safely be in charge of anything important. If someone doesn't soon figure out how to get a confidence me…

It’s probably generally irrelevant what they can do today, or what you’ve seen so far. This is conceptually essentially Moore’s law, but about every 5.5 months. That’s the only thing that matters at this stage. I watched everyone make the same arguments about the general Internet, and then the Web, then mobile, then Bitcoin. It’s just a toy. It’s not that useful. Is this supposed to be the revolution? It uses too muc…

> ...about the general Internet, and then the Web, then mobile, then Bitcoin. It’s just a toy. It’s not that useful.

Well, they're not wrong. They are not that useful toys.

(Yes, the "Web" included.)

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by ben_w »

SllX wrote: post #635
matwood wrote: post #385

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> We can no longer assume that a book is legit simply because it looks legit. The problem is that this has been an issue for a long time. My first interactions with the internet in the 90s came along with the warning "don't automatically trust what you read on the internet". I was speaking to a librarian the other day who teaches incoming freshman how to use LLMs. What was shocking to me is that the librarian said a…

> The problem is that this has been an issue for a long time. My first interactions with the internet in the 90s came along with the warning "don't automatically trust what you read on the internet". I received the same warnings, actually it was more like “don’t trust everything you read on the internet”, but it quickly became apparent that the last three words were redundant, and could have been rephrased more accur…

> Our parents and teachers were living with their own fallacious assumptions and we just didn’t know it at the time, but most information is very pliable.

Indeed. When I was 14-18 in the UK, the opinion pieces in the news were derogatorily describing "media studies" as "Mickey Mouse studies".

In retrospect such courses were teaching critical analysis of media sources, in much the same way that my history GCSE went into the content of historical media and explored how both primary and secondary sources each had the potential to be either accurate or biased.

Even now, even here, I see people treat the media itself as pure and only the people being reported upon as capable of wrongdoing — e.g. insisting that climate scientists in the 70s generally expected an imminent ice age, because that's what the newspapers were saying.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by nucleardog »

ku1ik wrote: post #888
nucleardog wrote: post #409

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I'm in the same boat. I've tried a few of these tools and the output's generally been terrible to useless big and small. It's made up plausible-sounding but non-existent methods on the popular framework we use, something which it should have plenty of context and examples on. Dealing with the output is about the same as dealing with a code review for an extremely junior employee... who didn't even run and verify thei…

> Except here's the problem. Even for intermediate developers, I'm essentially always in a situation where the process of explaining the problem, providing feedback on a potential solution, answering questions, reviewing code and providing feedback, etc takes more time out of my day than it would for me to just _write the damn code myself_. Exactly. And I’ve been telling myself „keep doing that, it lets them teach, o…

At least with the humans I work with it’s _possible_ and I can occasionally find some evidence that it _could_ be true to hang on to. I’m expending extra effort, but I’m helping another human being and _maybe_ eventually making my own life easier.

What’s the payoff for doing this with an LLM? Even if it can learn, why not let someone else do it and try again next year and see if it’s leveled up yet?

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by Melenahill »

datahack wrote: post #894
Animats wrote: post #666

I'm tired of LLMs. Enough billions of dollars have been spent on LLMs that a reasonably good picture of what they can and can't do has emerged. They're really good at some things, terrible at others, and prone to doing something totally wrong some fraction of the time. That last limits their usefulness. They can't safely be in charge of anything important. If someone doesn't soon figure out how to get a confidence me…

It’s probably generally irrelevant what they can do today, or what you’ve seen so far. This is conceptually essentially Moore’s law, but about every 5.5 months. That’s the only thing that matters at this stage. I watched everyone make the same arguments about the general Internet, and then the Web, then mobile, then Bitcoin. It’s just a toy. It’s not that useful. Is this supposed to be the revolution? It uses too muc…

Hello everyone! With immense joy in my heart, I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt gratitude to an incredible lottery spell psychic, Priest Ray. For years, I played the lottery daily, hoping for a rewarding outcome, but despite my efforts and the various tips I tried, success seemed elusive. Then, everything changed when I discovered Priest Ray. After requesting a lottery spell, he cast it for me and provided me with the lucky winning numbers. I can't believe it—I am now a proud lottery winner of $3,000,000! I felt compelled to share my experience with all of you who have been tirelessly trying to win the lottery. There truly is a simpler and more effective way to achieve your dreams. If you've ever been searching for a way to increase your chances of winning, I encourage you to reach out via email: psychicspellshrine@gmail.com

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by floppiplopp »

Melenahill wrote: post #979
datahack wrote: post #894

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s probably generally irrelevant what they can do today, or what you’ve seen so far. This is conceptually essentially Moore’s law, but about every 5.5 months. That’s the only thing that matters at this stage. I watched everyone make the same arguments about the general Internet, and then the Web, then mobile, then Bitcoin. It’s just a toy. It’s not that useful. Is this supposed to be the revolution? It uses too muc…

Hello everyone! With immense joy in my heart, I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt gratitude to an incredible lottery spell psychic, Priest Ray. For years, I played the lottery daily, hoping for a rewarding outcome, but despite my efforts and the various tips I tried, success seemed elusive. Then, everything changed when I discovered Priest Ray. After requesting a lottery spell, he cast it for me and provi…

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