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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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You can always use Google Takeout so you don't lose access to your files.

How do I migrate my domains purchased under my google workspace account?

Those should be pretty easy, provided you do it now. Domain transfers are straightforward with any provider. I moved mine to Namecheap a few years ago.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring. For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade? I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation. > By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts fo…

> Which is to say incredibly hostile because people have come to view free Gmail accounts as a basic public service for which no payment will ever be required under any circumstances. which is called entitlement. And i'm seeing more and more of this sense of entitlement as more and more people (esp. young people) being exposed to the internet - and this seeps into their other lives offline.

> which is called entitlement.

Or you can call it bait and switch by the company.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Seconding Fastmail. I pay about £45/yr for it and I am very satisfied with all the features it provides. What I most value however is the no-bullshit attitude from the Fastmail team. No random killing of features, no ads, no sudden UI changes. It might feel simple and old, but I like it simple and old.

Heya we're looking into migrating to Fastmail based on the recommendations here (including yours). Have you had any issues with your outgoing mails being flagged as spam? That's a (perhaps slightly paranoid) concern of ours, given Google's clout. And to be clear, I'm not talking about spammy / bulk emails. I mean your standard day-to-day personalised emails (customer support etc.).

I just moved my domain mail to Fastmail, and everything arrives perfectly. I'm annoyed that I was bullied into this by the fact that 'unknown' mail servers are third-class citizens, but at least the problem is solved.

Some paranoid thread in me fears that Google will find a problem with Fastmail's IP range and credentials this spring (among others), in order to consolidate the Gmail upgrade cash avalanche, but I'm hoping that's just me with my tinfoil hat on too tight.

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We're mass enabling the zones that have asked for Beta access and will be going GA soon. Email me at celso@cf if you can't wait; we'll try to prioritize.

Are you going to add smtp relaying / sending mails too? Otherwise this is a one way street, you can receive mail on your domain, but not send from it.

You can use the SMTP relay from other providers. The free tier should be enough for a personal account or two. For example AWS SES, Mailgun, Sendgrid, etc.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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If your main use case is to keep using Gmail with a custom domain, then it’s still possible to achieve it using our service - improvmx.com. We’ve prepared a guide that explains how to migrate step-by-step: https://improvmx.com/guides/gsuite-legacy-free-edition-alter... Achieving the same functionality is possible on our free plan, and you can still use Gmail’s free SMTP method ( https://improvmx.com/guides/send-email…

This is perfect, thank you!

I'm glad if I can help! :)

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If your main use case is to keep using Gmail with a custom domain, then it’s still possible to achieve it using our service - improvmx.com. We’ve prepared a guide that explains how to migrate step-by-step: https://improvmx.com/guides/gsuite-legacy-free-edition-alter... Achieving the same functionality is possible on our free plan, and you can still use Gmail’s free SMTP method ( https://improvmx.com/guides/send-email…

this is lovely thank you for posting

You are welcome, I'm happy if it's useful!

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I don't think you can compare in any way Aruba mail service against Gmail. Even just for the webmail or the mobile app.

Why not? It's an IMAP service, you could use it with the client you prefer. Obvius GMAIL far way better for mail classification (promotional, transactional, spam). But I doubt any other service can do better than GMAIL with features.

gmail webmail client and spam/classification filters are already something above by far any other competitor. This is the added value I would like to see in a mailbox, not just another IMAP service.

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Someone not paying, using the free tier is by definition not a "customer". At least not yet, they are a potential customer at best.

Google makes a hell of a lot of money from me and people like me by selling ads based on multiple aspects of our lives. Spare me the "I'm not a customer" BS.

They make a bunch of money off you, but they don't receive that money from you. The customer is the one you receive money from.

"You're not a customer" isn't BS, it's a fact. Time to realise: You (and I) are the product.

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I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

> And now we're being forced to pay for something that everyone else gets for free. What we get for free is a @gmail.com address and the associated services. We DON'T get yourcustomer@domain.com or anything like that on top of Google's infrastructure. I can appreciate your frustration but these threads always come full circle to if you aren't paying for something you are the product and have much less control over yo…

> What we get for free is a @gmail.com address and the associated services. We DON'T get yourcustomer@domain.com or anything like that on top of Google's infrastructure.

As I understood it, that -- yourcustomer@domain.com or something like that on top of Google's infrastructure -- was exactly what GFYD users were supposed to get for free. Forever, according to Google's original promises.

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I'm a G Suite legacy user that is affected by this change, primarily using it for personal email. Extremely, extremely annoyed that Android app purchases will be lost. Since I also have Apple devices I'm considering moving over to iCloud+ since they now support 3 email boxes and 5 domain names per account: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514 Other options I'm researching include Outlook Premium and Zohomail. Wil…

"Free forever" I swear that we woke up 20 years in the future and that Google and Microsoft traded places.

Those of us who were awake for that time noticed that they didn't; Google just moved over to where Microsoft was and still is. The only difference is that Google got worse and Microsoft much better at PR, so many people are now under the misapprehension that Microsoft moved in the opposite direction.
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