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I don't know. But HPV and Herpes definitely can. Here's some more: https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/infectious-agent... It takes quite a long time to prove the link between a viral infection and a cancer that develops decades later, so it'll be a while before we know for sure.
I think that given the fact that we've been getting sick from corona-family viruses for years with no suspected link to cancers, this should be of relatively low concern, barring any specific information. There are other potential longer term side effects that at least seem to have some emerging data to back them up, which seem more concerning to me.
US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
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So I created a new account for this to avoid linking personal information... I had blood clots in my lungs last week a few days after getting the J&J vaccine. I'm an otherwise totally healthy man in my 30s, no preconditions. The hospital reported it to the vaccine reporting agency, which I assume is reviewing all this information. I'm not sure if they considered my case when making this decision. My clots were differ…
I agree for the US to pause the rollout is likely based on more data than 6 known cases of clotting. Not trying to be conspiratorial but my two cents is the authorities have more data then what is publicly being shared.
If we assume that only 5% of cases are being detected and reported correctly, then the numbers look quite different.
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Can you share some experiences with healthcare and the healthcare payment system in Croatia? I think we would all be fascinated to hear first hand accounts from someone who's also experienced the abysmal US system. What does your immunoglobulin cost in Croatia?
Sorry, but this is not relevant to this discussion. I refuse to flood this extremely long thread with details that are not relevant to the readers clicking on this thread. Please see my profile and email me instead, for specific answers.
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I got a little out of breath doing simple tasks like walking briskly or picking up my kids, and I had a pain in my back (actually lung) that gradually got worse over a few days. Eventually the pain was severe enough that I went to the ER. Looking back, the shortness of breath was a key indicator. It wasn't that I was struggling to breathe or anything, but I felt like I couldn't take a big deep breath easily and that'…
ok now I'm worried. I got the JJ vaccine 4 weeks ago. Suffered semi bad flu for few hours that night then after felt great. Now some who now me may consider me a hypochondriac but I've felt a tad "off" since the vaccine but kept it to myself. Maybe only 2-3 tiny lightheadedness episodes while walking the dog (nothing major just more of "what was that"), or some very minor chest tightness and stomach bloating feel. Bu…
It went away after that night, he was fine for 3 weeks with no pain or issues, was working out fine, etc. and thought nothing of it.
Suddenly one night went from perfectly fine sleeping to suffering a major stroke due to a blood clot in his brain within a 10 minute period, unable to do anything himself to get help as he lost all motor skills.
He said in retrospect he wishes he had followed up with a doctor on the thing he thought was no longer an issue 3 weeks before.
There are genetic tests they can run, as well, such as to see if you might have factor V Leiden.
Re: US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
#965The risk of dying from a blood clot after receiving the J&J vaccine is six in 6,800,000 (6.8M). The world population is 7,900,000,000 (7.9B). If everyone on the planet got the J&J vaccine tomorrow, and if it is the cause of the clots, then 6,971 people would die from the vaccine. Yesterday, Covid19 killed 8,803 people (according to worldometers). We don't want anyone to die from vaccination, and we don't fully unders…
6 obvious deaths that we're aware of. The risk of the vaccines is in their novelty and morbidity. An abundance of caution is required in this instance. It would be very bad to discover that there's a vanishingly small chance of blood clots within the first 3 months but a significant chance when paired with other events over the following decade.
Re: US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
#966The risk of dying from a blood clot after receiving the J&J vaccine is six in 6,800,000 (6.8M). The world population is 7,900,000,000 (7.9B). If everyone on the planet got the J&J vaccine tomorrow, and if it is the cause of the clots, then 6,971 people would die from the vaccine. Yesterday, Covid19 killed 8,803 people (according to worldometers). We don't want anyone to die from vaccination, and we don't fully unders…
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Hey thanks for this. I have the sources next to each. Just click the link in the bottom left corner. Let me know if you don't think they're accurate after having a look. I took the driving risk as being 250 miles of driving with an average 50mph speed (The risk of dying must be higher at high speed so wanted to take a high average to be fair).
The source on the "10x less risky than going down a flight of stairs" is https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2... . That shows that in the UK in 2010, 655 people died from falling down stairs. That translates to a 1 in 100,000 annualized risk from falling down stairs -- the relevant comparison is "10x less risky than using stairs a typical amount for an entire year". Interestingly, running the…
Re: US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
#968The risk of dying from a blood clot after receiving the J&J vaccine is six in 6,800,000 (6.8M). The world population is 7,900,000,000 (7.9B). If everyone on the planet got the J&J vaccine tomorrow, and if it is the cause of the clots, then 6,971 people would die from the vaccine. Yesterday, Covid19 killed 8,803 people (according to worldometers). We don't want anyone to die from vaccination, and we don't fully unders…
It's not just a "blood clot" or some "rare type of blood clot". This was what I posted in this post about the European Medicines Agency acknowledging the AstraZeneca vaccine (which I was inoculated with) was linked to something never seen before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26725232 > "Zero surprises here. Both Norwegian and German research teams identified the /actual specific novel antibody/ that causes th…
Covid kills X. Vaccine Kills Y. Everyone is stupid.
Programmers (and I'm one of them) are very black/white thinkers. Very few people on here had said ANYTHING that the radio said today: The pause give us the opportunity to train nurses and doctors to immediately identify the blood clot and make correct recommendations based on that. Typical anti-clotting protocols make this worse. The pause helps us get this communication out.
It's all identity politics at this point. Anyone has anything bad to say about a vaccine and suddenly the anti-anti-vaxxers pop up. Now that Trump criticized the pause I'm sure there's going to be a wildly popular support for this pause.
Re: US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
#969The risk of dying from a blood clot after receiving the J&J vaccine is six in 6,800,000 (6.8M). The world population is 7,900,000,000 (7.9B). If everyone on the planet got the J&J vaccine tomorrow, and if it is the cause of the clots, then 6,971 people would die from the vaccine. Yesterday, Covid19 killed 8,803 people (according to worldometers). We don't want anyone to die from vaccination, and we don't fully unders…
OTOH, if this being in the news causes fewer people to get vaccinated, pausing it may be a mistake that will cause more overall deaths This is the reason people lost trust in the medical community during COVID.