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People think I'm joking but we should bomb it to smithereens. The crater would probably just fill up with the water flow.
Oregon tried that with a dead beached whale 50 years ago. Results hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6CLumsir34
Fun facts: 1. The owner is Japanese 2. The operator is Taiwanese 3. The flag is Panamanian 4. The cargo is Chinese 5. The insurer is British 6. The crew is Indian 7. The canal is Egyptian and was built with forced labor by the French 8. The dredgers/salvage op managers are Dutch
> The flag is Panamanian That's an interesting way to say tax evasion.
I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
Seems pretty quick to setup and do assuming there are helicopters that can move that weight.
Comedy option, what wacky cold war era aircraft do we have capable of lifting massive loads like a container ship? Perhaps an enormous fleet of Chinook helicopters could take it straight up?
Just use the Philadelphia Experiment technology to teleport it to another dimension
In fact we can't find him anywhere...
I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
In an emergency situation like this: could they not use helicopters to lift containers off of the ship and just stack them next to the canal until they've freed the ship? Seems pretty quick to setup and do assuming there are helicopters that can move that weight.
And they can (if I remember right) contain 20 tonnes or so, of cargo.
Our current chinooks can handle 10 tonnes, and the old models could carry 4, if I recall.
And probably less in desert heat.
So helicopters will not be moving any containers
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If you unload 20,000 TEU's onto rail cars it takes 5000 cars, double-stacked. That's 50 100-car trains. It'll take weeks to months to load and unload all that, if a proper rail depot is available to take it. It takes huge cranes to reach across a megaship and into its hold. That'd have to be build. On sand. The idea that there's any quick way to manage the cargo of this ship is whistling in the dark.
Why do they need to be put on rail cars ? Unload them onto the sand next to the canal.
The ship isn’t going anywhere. It will need to be disassembled.
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>You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. No. Helicopters. 10 helis, 1 container/sortie, 10 sorties/hour = 10000 containers in 5 days.
You can't possibly have 10 helis safely unloading cargo at once from a single ship, that'd be an invitation for disaster. Also, doing that in the dark would simply not work. 10 sorties/hour is also unrealistic; with proper cranes and infrastructure at port it would take something like 10 minutes, with choppers it would take more time. IMHO if helis would even work (which is debatable and debated here), the optimistic…
5 loading at a time, while the other 5 unloading on the ground - plenty of space as ship is 1300 feet long.
> doing that in the dark would simply not work
you flood the ship and the space around with light. Almost 30 years ago we did a night ship unload at an unprepared location - no issues.
>10 sorties/hour is also unrealistic
doing it with crane we did about 15+ - we weren't union operation though - we were paid for performance, not time :) and being young we were moving fast. With chopper not much different if weather is ok.