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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

thewarrior wrote: post #213
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Crazy idea : Can we roll it into the water by pulling it over high strength rollers of some sort ? It would be pretty cool to use the same technique that was use to build the pyramids.

> It would be pretty cool to use the same technique that was use to build the pyramids.

I'm not saying it was aliens, but... it was aliens.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

EGreg wrote: post #666
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Why not just CUT IT APART and clean up the mess after? Like this: https://jalopnik.com/a-chain-just-cut-through-a-capsized-car...

Because that would take months; they'd have to unload it, pump out the oil and fuel, get a disassembly crew and a ton of gear and all the infrastructure around it, etc.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by andygates »

elihu wrote: post #488
qbasic_forever wrote: post #68

Comedy option, what wacky cold war era aircraft do we have capable of lifting massive loads like a container ship? Perhaps an enormous fleet of Chinook helicopters could take it straight up?

Even more whimsical option: Evangelion is set in 2015, which means if we were following their projected technology timeline, we could just unload the ship by Eva. Probably unit 0, because Rei tends to get the crappy jobs. Not Asuka, she'd turn it into a contest of who could sink the most tugboats by throwing containers at them or something like that. The Evas can be airlifted anywhere in the world, but IIRC they have…

This looks like a job for demilitarised Jaegers.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

jonplackett wrote: post #259
atdt wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a way of thinking out loud and providing an opening for someone more knowledgeable to explain what is being overlooked. It makes for interesting threads.

In that case... why don’t we get Elon Musk’s Submarine to get it out?

I bet they could hook up a bunch of Falcon-9's or Super Heavies to the ship and launch it into orbit.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by eCa »

eCa wrote: post #464
nicbou wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay but what about rockets?

Well, according to[1] elsewhere in this thread, we can use 130 tons as an approximation for lift capacity. So for 200000 tons, that would require 1500 ICMBs connected to the ship and launched at the same time. Probably more expensive than most other solutions, and I doubt that the Evergiven will be in a good condition afterwards. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26586189

Apparently I can’t spell ICBM.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by tilolebo »

The pandemic needs to stop ASAP so we can throw a Burning Man Middle East Edition next to that ship.

Days of partying in the desert, opening random containers, driving little excavators. What a blast it would be!

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by [deleted] »

zepearl wrote: post #338

Earlier today By clicking on some "dots" queued up on that map I think that I saw a ship tagged to transport "livestock" => that might become a small tragedy if they don't manage to clear quickly the channel - those chicken/goats/dont_know_what might be due to die anyway once they reach their destination, but dying of hunger/thirst packed aboard a ship might be worse... :(

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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by cycomanic »

Reading through the comments where people come up with solutions, really shows to me that software engineering education is lacking in terms of teaching general engineering principles.

Some of these proposals can be seen as being completely off reality by some basic order of magnitude estimations. Which is something that should be front and center of every engineering education.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by mrep »

nomy99 wrote: post #164
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

People think I'm joking but we should bomb it to smithereens. The crater would probably just fill up with the water flow.

Oregon tried that with a dead beached whale 50 years ago. Results hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6CLumsir34

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by [deleted] »

vanviegen wrote: post #771
rtkwe wrote: post #632

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For moving containers off the best bet would probably be heavy lift choppers, the ship is large enough you could have several working on it at once and then just drop them off nearby to be loaded onto barges or something. A huge undertaking but it any weight taken off the Evergreen is less digging they have to do and the time is so expensive. Also it's less middle of nowhere there's a pretty large airbase nearby it l…

It seems that containers may be too heavy. The most powerful chopper (the M-26) lifts up to 20,000kg (with most heavy-lift choppers probably lifting about half that), while some containers may wel exceed 30,000kg.

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