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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#942Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Obviously our use case isn't that common (it's been "legacy" for years) but still annoying to know that there's probably some script I could run to do this, but nobody has built the web UI for it. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a 20% time project. Surely you aren't the only Googler in this situation?
This would not be a 20% project, it would require at least 2 engineers full time for several months. I'm not even a web developer.
So, how many Googlers using their 20% time would it take (I know it would be more than 10)?
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#943Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Obviously our use case isn't that common (it's been "legacy" for years) but still annoying to know that there's probably some script I could run to do this, but nobody has built the web UI for it. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a 20% time project. Surely you aren't the only Googler in this situation?
Its not just googlers, the legacy accounts where available to everyone at the start. but the venn diagram overlap of people * willing to pay for such a tool, * not having switched to another provider since * and not willing to start paying for it now will be tiny
> Its not just googlers, the legacy accounts where available to everyone at the start.
Right, but only (some) Googlers are in a position to solve the problem by applying 20% time to it.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#944I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.
Dealing with the cloud will always be like dealing with Darth Vader. ("I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.") The idea that anyone actually chooses to depend on this when alternatives are out there is incredible: It's simply a horrible arrangement for both consumers and businesses.
True, but it's a compromise most of us are forced to make. The vast majority of people know that a custom domain name makes their email more professional, but wouldn't have the faintest idea of how to even begin to manage one if it weren't for services like this one. (Or, at the very least, wouldn't have known how to do it in 2007-2010 which this service was marketed as "free forever.") These cloud services are basically just "linux admin done for you" since most of us don’t have the expertise.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#945Google Legacy G Suite – Class Action Investigation – Chimicles Schwartz Kriner & Donaldson-Smith LLP
https://chimicles.com/google-legacy-g-suite-class-action-inv...
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#946Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring. For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade? I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation. > By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts fo…
Actually, I think that the "right move" should be quite different: DONT STOP a service with a short deadline but DEGRADATE it with a long deadline. If you STOP a service (or turn it to a PAID service) on short notice - and a service that is essential to people - then people will have to rush to find a solution... and will feel been extorted. If you DEGRADATE the service more and more, people will slowly leave or upgr…
They have been trying that for awhile, legacy accounts have not been getting some of the new feature, space was more limited on the legacy accounts than the paid accounts, and a few other things.
Most of us however we perfectly fine with the limited on the accounts... in reality if they just gave me the exact same level of service as they do the free gmail but with a custom domain I would be fine / happy. That is after all what the original service I signed up for was in the beginning.
I have no interest in Google Workspace, I want Gmail, Drive, and Identity. That is it. Maybe Photos... All of which they offer free to everyone still today just not with a custom domain
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#947It quite pisses me off that some features they've played with, disabled, let me hanging, like Reminders, sometimes it was disabled for Google Apps accounts (even paid ones). I used to be able to leave reminders while using headphones, and one day it stopped working. These days it seems they enabled it again, but seriously, I spent like year and half without being able to set Reminders using OK Google.
Someday I stopped being able to review applications on Google Play too. This is not my imagination, I have reviews I can see I made some years ago, and then suddenly... sorry, you can't. What the heck? You're technical geniuses, if you don't really want to associate a domain that I may lose and someone use in the future, hey, use an internal ID instead, but don't screw me over.
So I'm screwed because even if I actually pay, they use me as tester for their free service. Truth be told, even if I lose these paid apps, subscriptions, images/videos, history, whatever I lose... I'll just switch to full usage of my personal, not-on-my-own-domain account. How can I be a paying customer if I can't even get same features than non-paying? Come on...
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#948I host my family’s email on there and have started looking for alternatives. Currently testing out Zoho Mail which looks promising.
It will be weird for my primary email not to be a google account after close to 18 years.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#949If your main use case is to keep using Gmail with a custom domain, then it’s still possible to achieve it using our service - improvmx.com. We’ve prepared a guide that explains how to migrate step-by-step: https://improvmx.com/guides/gsuite-legacy-free-edition-alter... Achieving the same functionality is possible on our free plan, and you can still use Gmail’s free SMTP method ( https://improvmx.com/guides/send-email…
This is perfect, thank you!
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#950Little late to the party but there is a law firm that is investigating a class action lawsuit if it's interesting to anybody else https://chimicles.com/google-legacy-g-suite-class-action-inv...