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You're right about the hubris, but Caps Lock -> Esc is The Way regardless!
Caps Lock as Esc (tap) and also Ctrl (hold) is the true way
Interesting, haven't tried that, but I will.
macOS Tahoe
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Re: macOS Tahoe
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Rich Corinthian Leather? Green baize backgrounds? Really..?
At least he was consistent and the UI design made sense, textures aside. And UI gossip aside, all the accounts from every engineer who worked under him consistently praised him. Safari with its KHTML underpinnings was also created under his watch, apparently.
Webkit (along with Safari) was started under Avie Tevanian's watch. Scott Forstall worked under him and Bertrand Serlet, along with Lisa Melton, who lead the development team for Webkit. Forstall was responsible for the development and release of Apple Maps.
Re: macOS Tahoe
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I used Mac for 10 years and started feeling the same irritation around 2017. In 2020 I finally bit the bullet and switched to Linux. The initial investment into getting a usable Arch desktop was horrible. It took several days just to get to the point of something that I could boot into and be productive. It takes me a long time to get things working the way I want, but I kind of enjoy that aspect of total customizati…
I fully get that macOS is not perfect, but checking out "modern" Linux (like a customized Arch) is a bit underwhelming. It still looks to me like Linux 20 years ago. And I started with Linux in the mid 90s. Not much has changed or improved on the pure fundamentals. I guess it's fine if all you do is sit doing CLI or spending your day in web browsers. Day to day macOS driving to me is an absolute joy (granted, I'm sti…
I backed up and upgraded to Tahoe earlier today so I could fully immerse myself in the disaster of a release that is being reported here today. After a half day with Tahoe I simply cannot understand all the drama.
It's fine. Maybe a bit more of a departure UI wise and not as polished as the previous release but whatever, I don't see how this would cause anyone to throw in the towel on Apple and move to Linux. I've used both for years and would never chose to use Linux exclusively or even primarily.
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I fully get that macOS is not perfect, but checking out "modern" Linux (like a customized Arch) is a bit underwhelming. It still looks to me like Linux 20 years ago. And I started with Linux in the mid 90s. Not much has changed or improved on the pure fundamentals. I guess it's fine if all you do is sit doing CLI or spending your day in web browsers. Day to day macOS driving to me is an absolute joy (granted, I'm sti…
I backed up and upgraded to Tahoe earlier today so I could fully immerse myself in the disaster of a release that is being reported here today. After a half day with Tahoe I simply cannot understand all the drama. It's fine. Maybe a bit more of a departure UI wise and not as polished as the previous release but whatever, I don't see how this would cause anyone to throw in the towel on Apple and move to Linux. I've us…
Yeah... that's my take so far. There are some issues here and there, but the incredible ranting that's been going on seems overblown.
Re: macOS Tahoe
#925I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…
I have been running the beta from the beginning and they have improved quite a bit, but I am actually shocked they didn't delay Mac OS 26, because the design is so rough around the edges. Some of the larger aesthetic changes, such as the menu bar and the dock look good, but there is so much more that looks objectively awful. 1. the way window UI elements float in bubbles on the top over a white background is horrible…
> The side bar, such as on Finder, just kind of floats there. That is fine and looks kind of neat on the Maps app as you can see some of the maps behind it, but on the Finder it is just a white bubble over top of a white background, which... is a choice.
Agreed. All of the transparency and liquid glass effects look terrible when they're displayed over a solid color, especially white. That said, they look good over top of something colorful and really AMAZING when displayed over something that's moving (video, whatever).
I imagine that the effect REALLY takes off on a display where EVERYTHING is moving, like on top of the real world on a VisionOS display. It's just out of place on MacOS when uses as a dev workstation.
Re: macOS Tahoe
#926The reason Liquid Glass on macOS specifically is getting so much blowback is that it isn't just updating the translucency effect with the new glass refraction effect - they've also increased the border radius of most windows, increased paddings in toolbars, sidebars, etc. and overall made the UI much less information-dense, which is wild for a desktop OS. If they had just changed the translucency effect, I think this…
I feel like every macOS update has been worse than the last, since like 2015-2018 or so. Still, their only real competition is Windows 11, which isn’t well received either.
> Still, their only real competition is Windows 11, which isn’t well received either.
It was at a certain point revealed that the people creating the new Windows-designs were in fact not using Windows anymore, they were using Macs.
In short they didn’t have to eat their own dogfood.
I’m starting to suspect the same thing have happened to Apple-designers…
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It was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. After trying out the preview for a month, the writing was on the wall, and I began the process of switching to a Thinkpad with Linux. I am now fully off macOS for the first time in 20 years of being an Apple die hard. I could use a lot of emotionally loaded words to describe how I feel about this release, but the long and short of it is that I am no longer the targ…
Yep I feel the same. To know if you're the target user or not I guess you go to Apple's marketing material. Do you see anyone that looks like you, doing anything that looks like what you do? I don't and I can't remember the last time I did. It seems to be a lifestyle brand now for people I have little in common with. At least with Linux there's the possibility that you can make it your own even if it's not that way r…
> Do you see anyone that looks like you, doing anything that looks like what you do? I don't and I can't remember the last time I did.
You mean you are not an ethnically interesting person with a head full of colored hair wearing ethically sourced pre-aged linen sipping responsibly grown coffee with a serene smile facetiming even more interesting people without any worry about any real problems in the world?!
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Mail.app alone had enough issues and missing features to sustain an entire cottage industry, and would be one app I would certainly like to contribute to. But it shall never come to pass.
The tragedy here is that Apple mail was far and beyond the BEST IMAP client up until ~2014.
Maybe it's just nostalgia but i really miss Eudora.
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#929This is the first time I've ever seen a macOS update and not seen a single feature worth bothering to upgrade over. Is there anything developer-facing? I don't use any Apple ecosystem stuff and this is all that AFAICT
There is support [1] for containers.
Re: macOS Tahoe
#930Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena: 1. Old bugs are not fixed. 2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds. 3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them. 4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them. My workflow pr…
Just curious, what yype of featureres where removed? To be honest Im new to macos, but after spending years suffering with gnome, that did removed a lot of features, Macos seens like it dosent suffer of this that much.
My mouse and keyboard are connected via the USB dock function of my monitor.
After the update, I can't even login. Great.
Not that it was working well before. To get the second monitor to even turn on, I had to first power off and then subsequently turn on again the primary monitor.
And that ritual was unique to my M2 Pro Mac mini.
On Windows, or a M1 Pro Macbook, everything just works.
And I'm not the only one with this super annoying external monitor issue. Apple apparently never fixed it. It just sucks.