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Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by crowbahr »

testfoobar wrote: post #266
DannyBee wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also quoting Paul Krugman - "“The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in ‘Metcalfe’s law’—which states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the square of the number of participants—becomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet’s impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machi…

Of course Krugman got that wrong. It is funny. But economists don't disagree about the effects of price controls. These are easy to observe and model. These concepts are also taught to Economics undergraduates all over the world - often in their first Microeconomics class. They are not controversial. Here is a Khan Academy video: https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/microec...

Price controls on inelastic demand are absolutely a subject of debate among economists

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Post by Spicy69 »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #282
seydor wrote: post #165

The fact that people in here (who are richer than average) disagree with his policies makes his election more hopeful

The reality, which kinda sucks and is boring, is that generally people with money understand how money works, and why things like rent control, government grocery stores, and free [expensive service], are financially brutal policies.

The same people that voted for financially responsible policies like reciprocal tariffs?

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Post by Lord-Jobo »

jjj123 wrote: post #791
michaelbarton wrote: post #13

I hope this win signals (to both parties) that voters are receptive and will get engaged when a clear message is presented about cost of living and quality of life issues. Some of which are taken for granted in most other western countries. I’m no political wonk, and I’m curious what others with more insight might say about his ability to fund and implement his polices. I’m reminided of Obama and his hopeful message…

Only speaking for myself (also not a political wonk): I do not expect Mamdani to be able to enact all of his policies. Not because of money but because of political opposition from the powerful. I felt the same about Bernie and Medicare for all. We have the money to do it, but the powerful will not let it happen. However: that doesn’t mean we should elect politicians that won’t even try to make these things happen. I…

Absolutely, elect enough Mamdani’s and the powerful will not be able to stop the changes. It’s the expectation that a single Mamdani or Sanders can fix much that has lead to extreme apathy from much of the electorate.

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Post by jjk166 »

dbbk wrote: post #732
seydor wrote: post #165

The fact that people in here (who are richer than average) disagree with his policies makes his election more hopeful

You can both be rich and also want a better quality of life for everyone in society. Not every rich person is a selfish asshole...

But some are selfish assholes; and if you find yourself agreeing with the selfish asshole rich people when it comes to economics, it might be worth double-checking their claims that a policy is supposedly better for everyone. Much hooplah is made of rising tides lifting all boats, but flooding the valley tends to just drown everyone not in a boat.

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Post by Izikiel43 »

pkulak wrote: post #361
Izikiel43 wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> wants to defund the police Ask Seattle how well that turned out

Why? They didn’t defund their police.

They tried, lots of people left, then backpedaled, and it's still not what it used to be.

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Post by Izikiel43 »

whoooboyy wrote: post #599
Izikiel43 wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> wants to defund the police Ask Seattle how well that turned out

Seattle has largely increased police funding, dramatically? For a dept under a consent decree until recently. The mayor also capped non police crisis response teams to 24 people. Total. For the city. 24. Seattle has done everything except defund the police, lol

Those are recent measures. They had to increase funding because they decreased it, and shit hit the fan, and they are trying to hire people back.

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Post by bix6 »

almostgotcaught wrote: post #450
what wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>fine A medium fries is over $4 before taxes… over $1 more expensive than the rest of the country.

In-n-out fries are 2.45 (and a burger is 4$).

Do you know why in n out is so cheap still? It seems like all the other fast food jumped up.

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Post by jjk166 »

Incipient wrote: post #19

As someone not in the US that doesn't pay a whole heap of attention, is it just me or did he run mostly uncontested? Running against a republican and a disgraced politician? No clue what mamdani is like, but it seems like NYC had little to no choice...which is a bit disappointing.

Prior to the citywide election there are primary elections where the major parties pick their candidates. Normally the winner of the democratic primary would only have the republican candidate as a serious opponent. Republican candidates have won 4 of the last 9 mayoral elections, and the most recent republican mayor won an additional election after becoming independent. This was the first election since 1985 with 3 major candidates on election day; and a fourth, the current incumbent mayor, dropped out only a few weeks earlier.

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Post by hagbard_c »

Lord-Jobo wrote: post #913
jjj123 wrote: post #791

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only speaking for myself (also not a political wonk): I do not expect Mamdani to be able to enact all of his policies. Not because of money but because of political opposition from the powerful. I felt the same about Bernie and Medicare for all. We have the money to do it, but the powerful will not let it happen. However: that doesn’t mean we should elect politicians that won’t even try to make these things happen. I…

Absolutely, elect enough Mamdani’s and the powerful will not be able to stop the changes. It’s the expectation that a single Mamdani or Sanders can fix much that has lead to extreme apathy from much of the electorate.

There are plenty of examples in the world to turn to to learn what happens when you get a critical Mamdani-Sanders mass. They tend to be rather unpleasant examples which are usually done away with using a variety on the "true socialism has never been tried" claim. No, Mamdani will not be able to turn New York into Caracas just yet. Let's all hope that nobody will be able to accomplish this.

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Post by jjk166 »

nsoonhui wrote: post #525

New York is always deep blue, so what is the significance of a Democrat winning this time? What is perhaps more telling is that the Democrats are putting up such a far-left candidate to the extent that even Obama can't endorse Zohran Mamdani's self-described 'democratic socialist' platform.

Republicans (or a former republican running as an independent) have won 5 of the last 9 NYC Mayoral elections. Mamdani will be the third democratic mayor elected since the 80s.
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