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Might theoretically work as long as you have no Trumpers/MAGA types on the council. If you put them on the council they'll try to ban their political opponents and allow every kooky antivax and racist far right tweet.

Might probably happen. But what DID happen though, is the opposite team doing the same and banning anything or anyone right-wing.

You think there is nothing right wing on Twitter?

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Twitter ignored multiple reports of personal threats directed at me specifically (involving concentration camps and general death threats, etc.) "This tweet doesn't violate Twitter rules." People I didn't know, who I had zero negative interactions with before. That was way before Musk. You just can't have human moderation at that scale. They have to brainstorm how to prevent these tweets in the first place, rather th…

"You just can't have human moderation at that scale" oh you definitely can. It's just not remotely cost effective and would ruin the bottom line of any tech company.

Naive comment ignoring other obvious problems with human moderation: https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-10-20/beh...

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post #432

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The piece satirized the confusion between sex and gender. It has only been very, very recently that we have gone from "gender is a social construct" to "sex is a social construct." It's still a highly debated topic and well within the public sphere of debate. Also, this person was a public official and was in the news from general news outlets (named Woman of the Year) which puts them well within the public realm of…

>It has only been very, very recently that we have gone from... Would you have said the same thing about ridiculing someone for being openly gay in government 30 years ago, being Catholic in government 60 years ago, or being Black in government 80 years ago?

What about if it was someone pretending to be gay, or pretending to be Catholic, or wearing blackface?

That would be a more appropriate analogy to what this official is doing.

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

> All that said, I hope Trump is never allowed back

Asking honestly, why?

I am genuinely curious to understand the reasoning behind this line of thinking.

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Sure. The Oversight Board. Facebook did exactly this years ago. oversightboard.com/decisions

Interesting! Glancing at the board, there is a clear makeup of highly educated, decorated, democratic, liberal-ish people. I would be hard pressed to call this setup one that focuses on "wildly diverse viewpoints".

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Don’t even get me started with screen recording on a phone. At least on Apple if any Apple Music is playing that you don’t own the mp3 for, gets scrubbed out. I only know this from trying to make a cool thing for my son. I’m so tired of the nanny shit and wish I could just go back to android.

> At least on Apple if any Apple Music is playing that you don’t own the mp3 for, gets scrubbed out. Yeah. Next year I'll be reading about how the camera apps are detecting copyrighted content and refusing to take pictures too. > wish I could just go back to android Don't count on Android. Stakeholder lock down is increasing there too. Remote attestation is already a thing, soon we won't be able to run most apps if w…

> , soon we won't be able to run most apps if we "tamper" with the device by owning it.

Do you have any evidence of this ? I think samsung has done something with knox, but that is the only case I know of.

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post #790

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Mismanaged according to who, him? He bought it because he forced the stock price down with the announcement and was forced into buying it.

"Forced into buying it" is really not an accurate way to think about it. It makes it sound like he never wanted to buy Twitter, when in fact he did want to buy it for less money because he knew the valuation was too high (because of bot farms, managerial bloat, &c.)

He said he'd buy it at $54.20 and they held him to that. If he didn't mean it he shouldn't have said it (a constant Elon problem)

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At least in the US, there's a lot of noxious speech that's legal. The US has very permissive free speech laws overall.

And conversely the US is one of the most restrictive nations on earth when it comes to speech that supposedly infringes Copyrights or can be interpreted as defamation/slander. The premise that US has anything resembling freedom of speech is completely untrue.

The USA has the concept of both fair use and public domain, which is lacking in many other countries copyright laws. The idea that the USA is uniquely IP owner friendly is commonplace in the tech community but wrong.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

#910
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Everyone seems to say there’s no moderation policy that will please everyone. Sounds right. But the real physical world has freedom of speech and it works pretty well. There’s a KKK meeting going on somewhere right now and yet none of us are bothered. Is the issue really freedom of speech or is it that Twitter puts people who would absolutely hate each other into the same room? What if you just fix that second part i…

> and yet none of us are bothered

What? I think a lot of people are very bothered by that... especially the victims.

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