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Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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That's not quite how I remember the "grip of death" events doing down.

Yea, looks like the "You are holding it wrong" part was deliberately left out.

And with good reason. That was never said by Apple. They simply explained why it happened (people's hands touching various parts and messing with the antennae). The media created that whole "You're holding it wrong" thing.

Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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Of course there are multiple rationales for choosing a platform, but support is certainly one of them. A while ago someone made a nice graph of how good Apple/Google are at maintaining OS support for their devices, it's pretty informative (although I'd like to see a new one). http://www.fidlee.com/android-support-vs-ios-support/ In this case the Nexus 4 is still officially supported by 5.0... but not being able to ca…

That's a great visualization, thanks. Here's an HN discussion of that chart from a year ago (it's a circus of everyone trying to make excuses): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6853222

Love the highly upvoted comments about how Apple can never release a watch or a 6 inch iPhone due to the inherent limitations of iOS.

Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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There is also the problem where companies like Google refuse to acknowledge platforms apart from theirs. The iOS apps are usually faulty, and Google DMCAs any third party apps that talk to their services on the windows platform.

This is going to bite them. Android has deteriorated so much I'm working out how to move to Windows phone which really means leaving the Google ecosystem completely. And my career has been Android based for many years now.

I have the 2012 Motorola X, and a Nokia Lumia 635 I picked up for $50 at Radio Shack a few weeks ago. I'm betting that the Lumia sees the Windows 10 preview before the Motorola X sees Lollipop. It's so bizarre.

Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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I don't want to be a nitpick, but it's "its customers". Possessive its (for some reason, the words google, possessive and customers together like that make me feel uncomfortable). Not "Google treat it is customers".

I don't mean to nitpick, but you used the term 'nitpick' incorrectly.

Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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I am so glad that I hold off on the bleeding edge android. I am sticking with 4.4 till there is more adoption

It's funny, I actually upgraded to 5.0.1 stock from Cyanogen 11 (4.4.4) because the phone portion stopped working in 4.4.4. Haven't had any issues with calls since then. Now I'm worried that it'll suddenly go south again :( Nexus 4 is clearly the red-headed stepchild in the Nexus family now. If there was a newer Nexus that wasn't the size of an iPad, I'd upgrade; but there isn't. Call me old-fashioned, but I don't li…

>Nexus 4 is clearly the red-headed stepchild in the Nexus family now.

I'm on Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If Nexus 4 is the red-headed stepchild, Verizon Galaxy Nexus is the kid chained in the basement nobody talks about :-/

Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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I'm going to cross the streams a bit here and bring up a major concern going forward. Right now, "Project Ara" is Google's project to create a modular phone that allows hot-swappable components in a totally customizable pocket device. That is, you could have 3 cameras and no wifi in your device if that's how you choose to put it together. How in the hell do we expect the Android OS to actually make this anything but…

I was getting excited about the Spiral but this thread has decreased the wind pressure in my sails considerably. Theoretically speaking, is any big mobile device company capable of supporting a modular device that can compete with the top of the line devices?

Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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It's funny, I actually upgraded to 5.0.1 stock from Cyanogen 11 (4.4.4) because the phone portion stopped working in 4.4.4. Haven't had any issues with calls since then. Now I'm worried that it'll suddenly go south again :( Nexus 4 is clearly the red-headed stepchild in the Nexus family now. If there was a newer Nexus that wasn't the size of an iPad, I'd upgrade; but there isn't. Call me old-fashioned, but I don't li…

> If there was a newer Nexus that wasn't the size of an iPad, I'd upgrade; but there isn't. The Nexus 5 isn't that much bigger than the 4, and certainly isn't as big as the Nexus 6. It's also not nearly as expensive as the 6. Size comparison of the 5 and 4 (from the left, respectively): http://newlaunches.com/archives/google-nexus-5-competition-c...

I really like my N5, and i have been enjoying Lollipop as a user experience. I use ADW launcher and keep my device very trim in terms of apps; the only niggling issue currently is that TextSecure does not receive group texts from iTards when WiFi is enabled, but they are aware of the problem so it is a m00t point.

It bears consideration that the N5 is not carried by Verison [CDMA].

Re: Remember broken Nexus telephony? This is how Google treats it's customers

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I feel like Android 5 is a step back, UI-wise. One of those "change for the sake of change" things. I don't see how a triangle, square, and circle are more user friendly than a back button, a home button, and a tab button. Chrome is also crashing constantly on 5.03 and the new keyboard is very very bright at night. Not a telephony issue, but I feel like 5.03 was a step back and I've actually contemplated downgrading…

I like Lollipop, and i don't like what you are saying, and i completely share your concern. Many of the comments ITT that make a negative assessment of Google are greyed out. The feel is bad, but i maintain my loyalty to Google, as there is no better option. I also get the feeling that they are building a Mothership and i would like to be on that craft when it leaves Terra.
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