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Re: TWTR

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Post by yummyfajitas »

raganwald wrote: post #11
arjunnarayan wrote: post #3

If it stays at $46, that's a gigantic fuck up. They left a billion dollars on the table, and that's borderline breach of fiduciary duty. Of course, we have to wait and see what it settles at, and it's a little premature to heap scorn just yet. But the initial reaction is it looks like they overreacted to the Facebook IPO debacle (in my book, Facebook did the best thing possible for the company and extracted as much v…

Can you say for a fact that if they priced at $46 that people would have bought at $46? Markets are highly irrational.

What does it mean for a market to be "highly irrational"? Normally the term "irrational" is applied to actors, while "efficient" refers to markets.

Are you suggesting markets are not efficient? In that case, when can we expect you to become extremely wealthy from your inefficiency-proving strategy? (Claiming the EMH is false is equivalent to claiming that such a strategy exists.)

Incidentally, when an actor behaves irrationally in an efficient market, this happens:

https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=0&...

Re: TWTR

#92

Post by Geee »

the_watcher wrote: post #34
Geee wrote: post #30

And... this marks the beginning of the end for Twitter as we know it.

Why do you say that? Facebook has been fine post-IPO.

I think Facebook could be much better (for users) if they hadn't IPO'd. Also, I don't think anyone really likes Facebook, it's just too big to fail. There's inherent conflict between profit and user experience (including privacy) in ad-based business models.

Re: TWTR

#96

Post by beauzero »

cft wrote: post #38

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Use optionsxpress. Cheap, reliable, and they actually have online educational seminars that will help you understand the risks.

Re: TWTR

#97

Post by hyperpape »

pfortuny wrote: post #61
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The owners of Twitter prior to the flotation have basically sold a chunk of what they owned on the stock market. To do that they needed to put a value on those shares. Determining that price is pretty tricky but through one mechanism or another they settled on $26 a share. The fact that people are now willing to buy them for $46 a share suggests that they basically sold them at too low a price (arguably $20 a share t…

I understand what you mean by "they lost out a fair bit of money". However, that is not exactly true. They have failed to gain that (admittedly huge) chunk of dollars but they have lost nothing: the have the same money they started with and they never had any more than that . You only lose when you start with X and end up with X-Y, for positive Y. They have probably missed the opportunity to gain more but that is the…

Well, two days ago, they owned n shares of assets that were sellable for $46 a share. Now they have n * 26.

They lost out, just as if I took your $20k new car and gave you $10k, you'd have lost out even though you have more cash.

Re: TWTR

#98

Post by fit2rule »

pearjuice wrote: post #54

If you buy TWTR stock, what are you investing in exactly?

A next-generation media company that has millions of people in its database that can be communicated to, almost instantly about any subject you desire.

Re: TWTR

#99

Post by hyperpape »

corford wrote: post #82

Can someone with more clue please tell me that the following cynical thought I keep having is wrong and laughably misinformed (and then explain why)? Twitter's investors (who have plowed hundreds of millions in to a loss making company) decide to sell some of their stock at $26/share (after consulting with banks to arrive at this price). This will make right the losses they've experienced so far and pass the problem…

If twitter never makes money, you're mostly right. If twitter eventually makes enough money to justify its share price, you're wrong.

Re: TWTR

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Post by [deleted] »

corford wrote: post #82

Can someone with more clue please tell me that the following cynical thought I keep having is wrong and laughably misinformed (and then explain why)? Twitter's investors (who have plowed hundreds of millions in to a loss making company) decide to sell some of their stock at $26/share (after consulting with banks to arrive at this price). This will make right the losses they've experienced so far and pass the problem…

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