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Re: TWTR

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Post by adventured »

cft wrote: post #38

Can someone advise what's the best way to buy derivatives (etrade,scottstrade, etc): the fastest way to open an account, the best order execution times? I want to invest some money to short this.

If you didn't catch a short on it near $50, wait. The stock market bubble is going higher under Yellen's dove policy. The valuation crazy tech stocks like TWTR or LNKD will go that much higher accordingly. This market doesn't drop until the Fed stops or the market goes so high it is forced to crash (runs out of oxygen, everybody panics, mass selling ensues, down goes the latest bubble).

Re: TWTR

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Post by the_watcher »

darrelld wrote: post #44
the_watcher wrote: post #36

I'm not an expert in the stock market, and the only stock I own is Facebook (which I bought a long time ago), but I am confused as to why Facebook is dropping today while there is so much enthusiasm for Twitter. Buying Twitter is basically betting on mobile advertising, which Facebook is the clear leader of. Is it possibly related to people with Facebook stock selling some to get in on Twitter? Are they entirely unre…

Not an expert either, but my guess? Facebook had its IPO hayday and Facebook is now another company listed on the market. Markets are mostly down today and Facebook is following the trend. Twitter is a hot new IPO and people are jumping on early in the hopes of it rising in price.

Got it. As someone who only owns one stock, I guess I don't look at the market as a whole enough. That makes more sense than anything else.

Re: TWTR

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Post by RyanZAG »

cft wrote: post #38

Can someone advise what's the best way to buy derivatives (etrade,scottstrade, etc): the fastest way to open an account, the best order execution times? I want to invest some money to short this.

There's a lot of paperwork and checks involved. No matter what route you go, it will take some time.

Re: TWTR

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Post by vdaniuk »

mikeash wrote: post #14
lnanek2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of fuck up IPOs then. I know I got double my money pretty quick on the VMWare IPO and the Visa IPO, just buying as soon as they went public and selling at a peak after news.

Yes, there are. If you were able to do that, that means that VMWare and Visa both got screwed out of billions of dollars. And of course, little guys can't get in right at the IPO price. That's reserved for big players. By systematically underpricing IPOs, the finance folks make billions of dollars for their friends at the expense of the companies they're supposed to represent.

Please provide extraordinary proof for the extraordinary claim that tech IPOs are rigged to transfer shareholder value to the banks managing or participating in the OP.

Re: TWTR

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Post by the_watcher »

mbreese wrote: post #49
the_watcher wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you say that? Facebook has been fine post-IPO.

Twitter is still losing money though... they haven't figured out how to make a profit. The fear is that what they'll need to do in order to make money will drive their user-base away.

That was the fear with Facebook too though. Newsfeed ads, FBX, etc were all unavailable pre-IPO, and were constantly referenced as the changes that will break Facebook.

Re: TWTR

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Post by MichaelApproved »

cft wrote: post #38

Can someone advise what's the best way to buy derivatives (etrade,scottstrade, etc): the fastest way to open an account, the best order execution times? I want to invest some money to short this.

Please don't take this as snark but I wouldn't recommend shorting anything if you are so inexperienced that you don't have a trading account or don't know which one to use. Shorting stocks is extremely risky and should only be done by traders with lots of experience.

If you really want to bank on Twitter going south, you can try buying puts when they're available. If you're not sure what puts are, leave this whole idea alone.

Re: TWTR

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Post by the_watcher »

abat wrote: post #42
the_watcher wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was an employee lockup of Facebook stock, if I remember correctly, so Facebook employees were not selling. Please correct me if I misunderstood something.

The lockup applies to shares on the open market after IPO. That doesn't preclude someone from participating in the IPO itself.

Got it, thanks for explaining.

Re: TWTR

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Post by omellet »

cft wrote: post #38

Can someone advise what's the best way to buy derivatives (etrade,scottstrade, etc): the fastest way to open an account, the best order execution times? I want to invest some money to short this.

There aren't any options yet, they'll probably start trading later next week. After that you can trade them through e*trade or whatever.
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