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Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Maybe they can create one without all the traffic.

I haven't been to Yellowstone so maybe this doesn't make sense, but is there a reason they couldn't implement the same system as Zion? During most of the year the main road in Zion is closed to private cars, and everyone uses the (very good) shuttle system, or bikes or walks.

Zion (the parts people see, at least), is tiny by comparison.

Also, as a photographer, the shuttle system is pretty awful. It's no longer easily possible to do get out to where you want to be well before dawn.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Really? I thought it was Terry Roosevelt. Do you have a source?

It was Teddy. Via executive orders. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-theodore-roosevel...

He came way later - it began much earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_National_Park_S...

You have to look at the history of each individual park, some started out as government land and remained such, others were private resort islands, etc.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Really? I thought it was Terry Roosevelt. Do you have a source?

Yellowstone National Park - 1872 Sequoia National Park - 1890 Yosemite National Park - 1890 Teddy Roosevelt - president from 1901 - 1909

Roosevelt's Time Machine was well known.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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> they'll come down and steal from your garbage in town You mean their home? Bears were there before humans settled and built towns. IMHO can't really complain about bears wehen you're the on encroaching on their turf, not the other way around.

I never understand these arguments. You mean mastodon home,surely? They were there before bears! How about pterodactyl? How far do we go / where do we arbitrarily draw the line? I am all for ecology, preservation, being in sync with nature etc, but I find fundamentally flawed and dishonest arguments like these don't contribute to the cause. Over billions of years, every single species alive displaced some other speci…

I think he's just saying that if you move in somewhere where there were lots of bears.... don't be surprised when bears show up and are annoying.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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> they'll come down and steal from your garbage in town You mean their home? Bears were there before humans settled and built towns. IMHO can't really complain about bears wehen you're the on encroaching on their turf, not the other way around.

I never understand these arguments. You mean mastodon home,surely? They were there before bears! How about pterodactyl? How far do we go / where do we arbitrarily draw the line? I am all for ecology, preservation, being in sync with nature etc, but I find fundamentally flawed and dishonest arguments like these don't contribute to the cause. Over billions of years, every single species alive displaced some other speci…

While I’d probably vote to shoo the bears, I don’t think the argument is particularly hard to understand.

Like the folks who build their house at the bottom of a flood plain or fire area and then demand help for ensuing disaster.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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There are more bears than the land can sustain. Go to any tourist (or non tourist) spot in the mountains and they'll come down and steal from your garbage in town . Look up Brasov. It's a reasonably large touristic town and it regularly gets bears at the periphery.

I live in a regular town in Connecticut and I have bears attack my garbage regularly, so I'm not convinced that's all that weird.

Unfortunately, Romanian bears are brown bears (Ursus arctos), not black (Ursus americanus). They are not easily scared by people and encounters with them can be very dangerous.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Have you ever seen the movie Cold Mountain? The story was set in the Appalachians, but the movie was filmed in the mountains of Romania. Beautiful.

I don't think the Carpathians look much like Appalachia - I'll have to check the film out and see.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Better than who out of curiosity?

The ones that get slammed the most that I've seen are probably the Brits, Russians, and Chinese. Apparently Brits are notorious for getting super drunk and fucking around. Russians are known as being really entitled and rude (and sometimes aggressive IIRC), and there's Chinese tourists also being rude and ignoring rules in huge packs. The stereotype of American tourists is that they're ignorant and loud (and bad dres…

> great tippers

This covers a multitude of sins, because the most likely person to be annoyed by tourists are the workers who interact with them.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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I never understand these arguments. You mean mastodon home,surely? They were there before bears! How about pterodactyl? How far do we go / where do we arbitrarily draw the line? I am all for ecology, preservation, being in sync with nature etc, but I find fundamentally flawed and dishonest arguments like these don't contribute to the cause. Over billions of years, every single species alive displaced some other speci…

I think he's just saying that if you move in somewhere where there were lots of bears.... don't be surprised when bears show up and are annoying.

This. I just said humans should not complain about bear issues when they settle in bear territory. Don't know why others need to get their knickers in a twist.
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