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The recall report: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V838-8276.PDF This recall is specifically targeted at the system that monitors if the driver is paying attention.
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Are you a new Tesla owner? > I got a software update that seemed to add auto steer to my non-autopilot model y. All (edit: new since 2019) Teslas come with autopilot. “Full self driving” is an add on. > I tried it a few times on the highway but it seemed erratic (switching off randomly and dangerously engaging regenerative brakes in the fast lane) “Switching off” usually means that it can’t identify the lane it’s sup…
I've been driving an M3 since 2020 and have put 40k miles on it, mostly over road trips throughout California and the western half of the US. Phantom braking has always been a bit of an issue -- when I first got the car, I just wouldn't use cruise control in heavy traffic, but felt ok using it once out of a city. In the past year or so, it's been so bad I'm scared to use it at all, and I've filed multiple complaints…
Are you running an old software version? You might try bringing it in for service because what you're describing definitely doesn't seem right.
Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”
> The update will add new, more prominent visual alerts and checks for the Autosteer function, which is part of Autopilot. Nothing was actually broken but regulators just insist on more alerts and Tesla just implemented those and is rolling them out with a routine software update. But that's a less dramatic headline. Actual recalls are less frequent unless there is a hardware problem like the wheels falling of a toyo…
"Tesla recall: nothing actually broken"
"Other manufacturer recalls: wheels falling off"
If I look at the recalls for my cars, they're far more mundane. "A passenger detection module may not detect a passenger. The vehicle will automatically deploy air bags in that seat position". "The passenger side camera may get foggy in cold weather".
And I don't think throwing shade at Toyota there helps a lot. Perhaps remember that Tesla has shipped vehicles with missing brake pads, unglued windshields, etc.
Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”
To help you better understand in the future:
> A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards.
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The NYT is more than capable of making a clear headline. These are not stupid people. But they do have goals.
The headline is perfectly clear and is not using language in a new way. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) issues recalls for safety related issues. The way the manufacture resolves the issues can differ.
There's no reason the headline couldn't have read something like "Tesla Issues Software Update at Request of NHTSA", which would be less likely to confuse the average reader, but also less attention-grabbing.
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I commented on a post on X stating about the recall. I said that it's an OTA. But many people said technically it's a recall.
Is it? I don't see android "recalling" android devices every update.
> A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards
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> and then this term will no longer be usable for clickbait article titles. It's not clickbait, that's ridiculous. The essence of the article is the results of the investigation. NHSTA has a process, they investigated and issued a recall. The fact that it can be fixed OTA doesn't change the intent of what's happening. I mean, at what point does the first comment stop being, "It's not a recall!" Who cares. I'm more in…
NHSTA needs to reevaluate the usage of “recall” in situations where nothing is being physically recalled to the manufacturer’s facilities. It is only confusing people. There are much clearer ways to phrase what has occurred like “Regulators force Tesla to issue mandatory OTA update to address issues with auto pilot”
Because for sure my parents' next car will have OTA capacity, but also be disconnected by my dad. If it needs a software update, that vehicle will be driven to a garage. If you don't issue a recall anymore, it'll be dangerous.
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The headline is perfectly clear and is not using language in a new way. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) issues recalls for safety related issues. The way the manufacture resolves the issues can differ.
Sure, you're technically correct, but when the average person reads "recall" they typically assume something very different. Doubly so since this isn't even a bug fix, just a new requirement to add additional safety checks above and beyond the ones already there. There's no reason the headline couldn't have read something like "Tesla Issues Software Update at Request of NHTSA", which would be less likely to confuse t…
Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”
Just because a manufacturer applies a fix OTA doesn’t make it not a recall. Recall is just a term. Regulators issue the recall. How the manufacturer performs the fix can vary.
With Tesla no action on your end is required. The car will download the fix and apply it automatically.