Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by rgbrgb » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:00 PM UTC

Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue
nytimes.com

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by filoleg » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:09 PM UTC

Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by ekianjo » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:10 PM UTC

filoleg wrote: post #2

Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”

gotta love the NYT for accurate headlines

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by kristofferR » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:11 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #3

filoleg wrote: post #2

Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”

gotta love the NYT for accurate headlines

It's not incorrect, it's just confusing:

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/07/24/is-recall-really-the-ri...

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by dharmab » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:13 PM UTC

The recall report: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V838-8276.PDF

This recall is specifically targeted at the system that monitors if the driver is paying attention.

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by trident5000 » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:14 PM UTC

kristofferR wrote: post #4

ekianjo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gotta love the NYT for accurate headlines

It's not incorrect, it's just confusing: https://cleantechnica.com/2022/07/24/is-recall-really-the-ri...

The NYT is more than capable of making a clear headline. These are not stupid people. But they do have goals.

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by Xenoamorphous » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:14 PM UTC

Dupe? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38625652

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by Oras » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:15 PM UTC

filoleg wrote: post #2

Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”

From the article:

> Tesla began issuing an “over-the-air software remedy” to certain vehicles on Tuesday, safety officials said. The remaining vehicles will receive software updates later, and all updates will be free for the cars’ owners.

I was confused as to why Tesla needs to "recall" when they can do OTA update. The title is misleading

surprise

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by rgbrgb » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:15 PM UTC

filoleg wrote: post #2

Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”

Yeah I was wondering about that too. I got a software update that seemed to add auto steer to my non-self-driving model y. I tried it a few times on the highway but it seemed erratic (switching off randomly and dangerously engaging regenerative brakes in the fast lane). Won’t be trying again until next update (if it sticks in the car).

edit: corrected autopilot (cruise control) -> self driving

Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Vehicles over Autopilot Software Issue

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Post by seeekr » Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 3:16 PM UTC

filoleg wrote: post #2

Note: “tesla recalls” == “tesla pushes OTA software update (just like any regular OTA update)”

I think at some point the absurdity of the numbers (now it's 2M, soon it'll be 10M, 50M, ...) will become so great that NHTSA will stop calling this a "recall", and then this term will no longer be usable for clickbait article titles. Absurdity because it'll get harder and harder to imagine how a company might bring in millions and millions of vehicles in for service repeatedly, from a logistics and cost perspective, and still be able to grow and make a good profit.