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California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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No version of this bill was ever known as "Delete Act". Press outlets just invented that. There is a proposed federal "DELETE Act" with a similar purpose.

At least one CA Senator called it the "Delete Act". https://sd13.senate.ca.gov/news/in-the-news/september-1-2023...

So does the EFF: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/californias-delete-act...

And the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-09-14/california...

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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post #90

So every 45 days, the CPPA will tell these companies to delete your data. I wonder how many people realize that that means the CPPA or these companies have to keep a record of some of your PII, so that they can look you up and delete you from the database. Maybe privacy conscious people are fine with the California government keeping their PII?

Not sure you know what CPPA stands for. Your objection makes little sense.

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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post #90

So every 45 days, the CPPA will tell these companies to delete your data. I wonder how many people realize that that means the CPPA or these companies have to keep a record of some of your PII, so that they can look you up and delete you from the database. Maybe privacy conscious people are fine with the California government keeping their PII?

Not sure you know what CPPA stands for. Your objection makes little sense.

It stands for the California Privacy and Protection Agency, right?

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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post #90

So every 45 days, the CPPA will tell these companies to delete your data. I wonder how many people realize that that means the CPPA or these companies have to keep a record of some of your PII, so that they can look you up and delete you from the database. Maybe privacy conscious people are fine with the California government keeping their PII?

Oh but the government won't become a new data broker and sell our data to 3rd parties, right?

https://hallboothsmith.com/california-dmv-sells-personal-inf...

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

#96

This will be great! ...for California! Anyone who thought that California's "Do Not Sell My Data" requirements would cause websites to tamp down on the data collection nationwide were sorely disappointed when sites simply implemented an IP Address check to only display the option if they were in California. Other states followed suit, and sites amended their logic to show the banner in California, Virginia, etc. They…

I actually just saw on an insurance website today "opt our of sharing your data: (california residents only)"

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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Question: has anyone used tools like DeleteMe and Optery to remove their data from the web? Curious to hear thoughts, opinions, experiences. https://joindeleteme.com/ https://www.optery.com/

I can confirm that DeleteMe works.

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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Question: has anyone used tools like DeleteMe and Optery to remove their data from the web? Curious to hear thoughts, opinions, experiences. https://joindeleteme.com/ https://www.optery.com/

I used OneRep for a while, but moved to Optery after finding OneRep seemed to be a bit shady.

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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Perhaps I'm a radical, but if you do not have a current ongoing direct relationship with the company, then that company should not be able to store and sell your private data. I realize this is probably very contrary to Silicon Valley business models, but I think the issue requires a hard line or else people will just violate it.

I don't think you are radical enough.

I want to own my data and allow companies to collect and lease it in exchange for money, goods, or services. I want to be able to sue anyone who uses this data without explicit permission with option for punitive damages.

I want mechanisms to control my data and I don't see that happening without signed contracts.

I want to control what data is collected and how it can be used. I want this in writing in clear language in terms that cannot be changed until the contract termination date, some other specified period (with option to terminate), or with my signed consent. I also want the option to object to the sale of data to particular buyers. And I want the option to have the data deleted when my contract is terminated or when the company is sold.

I think the current hodge-podge of laws surrounding this don't come close to this kind of control and to the degree that they do, they're mostly a lot of work for the consumer; more opt-out than opt-in. Companies rely on people mostly not really knowing what they're doing with data and changing their privacy policies on a whim because how many people really read all these changes or leave? I'm not sure I've really seen any mass migration on privacy policies (although I have seen that on 'we own all your stuff forever' type TOS changes).

Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers

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This will be great! ...for California! Anyone who thought that California's "Do Not Sell My Data" requirements would cause websites to tamp down on the data collection nationwide were sorely disappointed when sites simply implemented an IP Address check to only display the option if they were in California. Other states followed suit, and sites amended their logic to show the banner in California, Virginia, etc. They…

Honestly, I live in Los Angeles and feel like I never even see these California-specific opt-out banners. I typically reject all but essential cookies on every website that prompts me, but never see anything related to the CCPA, which is a shame because I really do want to utilize it.
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