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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by alpaca128 »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

Same. Recently I tried Brave because of all the praise but turns out the browser can only display around 80 tabs on the tab bar and every further tab simply never shows up even if it's in the foreground. I've seen mobile browsers handle many tabs better. I'm staying with Firefox, though I think Brave is probably still a good recommendation for users that don't want to go through the effort of installing an ad blocker.

Edit: so I just looked and it turns out you can enable tab bar scrolling on chrome://flags/#scrollable-tabstrip. Why is that even disabled by default?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by itsTyrion »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #75
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which is a fast DNS? 1.1.1.1 ? I thought the OS caches DNS anyway, so shouldn't matter much in day to day browsing.

Depends on your region and what sites you're using. I live in the middle of nowhere far from civilization, and 1.1.1.1 returns terrible IPs for many sites including google.com (which pings at 350-400 ms if you resolve it through 1.1.1.1, but at 90-100 ms if you're using any other resolver). They do it because they block EDNS0 in order to protect your privacy or something like that. So I use 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9 in par…

> fast DNS

> recommends quad9

huh?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by [deleted] »

itsTyrion wrote: post #92
5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on your region and what sites you're using. I live in the middle of nowhere far from civilization, and 1.1.1.1 returns terrible IPs for many sites including google.com (which pings at 350-400 ms if you resolve it through 1.1.1.1, but at 90-100 ms if you're using any other resolver). They do it because they block EDNS0 in order to protect your privacy or something like that. So I use 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9 in par…

> fast DNS > recommends quad9 huh?

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by tapoxi »

eyegor wrote: post #42
dherikb wrote: post #29

I'm just waiting for the vertical tabs support to give a new chance for Firefox.

Tree style tabs is a vertical tab extension for ff and the best ui around if you use a lot of tabs. I can't even use chromium vertical tabs anymore because they feel terrible in comparison. You can also fully style tree style tabs via css. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

But then you get duplicates, since Mozilla made it a pain to disable the main tab bar. I'm using a Chromium offshoot (Arc) but I also like how Vivaldi handles vertical tabs. Firefox doesn't just compete with Chromium itself, but the entire ecosystem.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by jodrellblank »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #39
rednafi wrote: post #38

The biggest reason I stick with Chrome is how easy it is to resume your work on a new machine. You just log into your Google account and boom, all of your data and extensions start syncing in the background. With Firefox, I've to log into a new FF account and then log into my Gmail again anyway. I admit I'm lazy but for me, ergonomics usually comes before ideology.

more like vendor lock

"I prefer the way this vendor does things" is not vendor lockin.

"I hate the way this vendor does things, but I'm locked in and can't leave" is vendor lockin.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by itsTyrion »

steveBK123 wrote: post #46
dt2m wrote: post #7

Anecdotally, Firefox has always been faster than Chrome on MacOS for me. Great to see it’s only getting even better.

I found chrome on macOS to be a sloppy implementation Years ago I remember it was the one app that could reliably kernel panic my MacBook Strange stuff

how the shit does a browser just casually kernel panic the OS ‽ O_o

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by seba_dos1 »

seapat wrote: post #85
wintermutestwin wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

Not OP, but personally I'm using Tab Center Reborn with a bit of custom browser CSS to make it slide out on hover (so there are only favicons visible until hovered). It's just a vertical UI for tabs with handy filtering entry box, rather than a complex tab management thing like TST. The only thing I'm missing is filtering/jumping to the tabs that play sounds - it's easy to miss a tiny icon when you have thousands of tabs open :P

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by quickthrower2 »

systems_glitch wrote: post #60
seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

I used to keep Chrome installed just for the dev tools, but the Firefox dev tools became good enough in probably 2013 or so.

Firefox gave birth to the first good dev tools as an extension IIRC

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by alexghr »

This is great to hear and I hope it will mean more people give Firefox a decent try! We need more people on alternative browsers in order to keep healthy competition between rendering engines.

Firefox also handles lots of tabs really well and its Tab Containers plugin enables perfect separation of work tabs and personal tabs (I've got 1.4k tabs split across personal/work containers. I've got a problem, I know)

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by hencoappel »

seapat wrote: post #85
wintermutestwin wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

I use tree style tabs, what don't you like about it?
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