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Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force

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I hate these things. My father bought a new car with this nonsense and it's awful and refuses to turn off.

See a 130 sign for the train next to the road?

Haha, we're going to break really hard down to 30 now.

Literally no sign at all anywhere on a 120 road? Haha, we're going 60 now.

It doesn't even do it gently.

It's terrible. It's an Audi Etron something if anyone is wondering.

Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force

#92
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>(Surprising, because politicians, especially in Europe, tend to go for reality-ignoring nanny-state solutions nowadays) Examples?

Parts of GDPR (cookie law++, 100 people organization expectations for random one man software operations in japan, etc) and the current efforts to effectively remove end to end encryption from people's chat programs are two good examples. The EU is not the lone offender in this of course, many other countries have similar issues, such as the USA's FATCA.

> current efforts to effectively remove end to end encryption from people's chat programs

May be out of the loop here but do you have some source where we can catch up on the state of this?

In case you're referring specifically of the DSA/DMA (the recent interoperability bombshell), I don't see how that's currently an effort to remove E2EE.

Also keep in mind that only "gatekeepers" (as defined) are under scope here. E.g. Signal is small enough to not be in scope. As long as your chat program is not controlled by a multi-billion-dollar corporation you should be good.

Arathorn from New Vector has written a series of insightful blog posts about this[3].

References:

2022 EU parliament DSA amendment[0]:

> Member States should not prevent providers of intermediary services from providing end-to-end encrypted services. Applying effective end-to-end encryption to data is essential for trust in and security on the Internet, and effectively prevents unauthorised third party access. Furthermore, to ensure effective digital privacy, Member States should not impose a general obligation on providers of intermediary services to limit the anonymous use of their services. In accordance with the principle of data minimisation and in order to prevent unauthorised disclosure, identity theft and other forms of abuse of personal data, recipients should have the right to use and pay for services anonymously wherever reasonable efforts can make this possible

DSM FAQ[1]:

> The final agreement on the interoperability obligation also ensures that the levels of service integrity, security and encryption offered by the gatekeeper shall and will not be reduced.

...However, I can't seem able to find the referred final agreement. The publicized document is (still?) the 2020 version[2] which contains no references to encryption AFAICT.

I don't mean to imply that you are wrong here as contradictory (is there a better non-toxic way to say "schizophrenic"?) tech regulation initiatives seems to be a trend with the EU. But please provide more details as there has been a lot of confusion around this.

[0]: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2022-0014...

[1]: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/QANDA_...

[2]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?qid=16081168...

[3]: https://matrix.org/blog/2022/03/30/technical-faq-on-the-digi...

Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force

#93
post #70
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is obviously only intended to be used on A roads. That you even tried it on C roads is a bit scary. All it does is keep you from plowing into the car in front of you on the freeway. It also does a so so job helping you stay in your lane. Helping, not doing it all on its own.

Clearly I did not use the cruise control on a C road. The lane assist seemed to be always on though, no obvious switch and menus deep I could not find a way to turn it off. That and the fact it mistook ice for lane marking is crazy. Bad UI? or just bloody dangerous? edit: checked and apparently it is also on by default, no permanent off switch, and there were quite a few comments from owners indicating they couldn't…

That sounds awful. I've only ever driven Toyota lane assist vehicles (3 different ones), and they all had a button on the steering wheel to turn off lane assist and the annoying beeping it does.
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