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How often do your seatbelt warning give out false positives? How high false rate would people accept before they removed/rigged the device? One major reason why ignition locks that uses breathalyzers has failed to gain popularity is false positives. Police always do a blood test after a positive breath test, because those breathalyzers have know faults when it comes to a number of substances, including bread, fruit,…
> How often do your seatbelt warning give out false positives? Never, in any car I’ve ever been in, have I seen a false positive seatbelt warning.
New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
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Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
the problem is that the car will limit your speed. it will not just alert you. this is incredibly dangerous as sometimes you need to drive over the speed limit to avoid accidents or dangerous drivers. instead of introducing this they should send drivers to driving school and make the police check driver licenses more often and arrest those driving without a license. in germany you can drive at any speed you want in c…
I have never really liked that in the USA, the posted speed limit is both the normal speed of travel and the maximum speed permitted. I think legally there should be some allowance for exceeding the speed limit when passing. We have some sections where one must move into the opposing traffic lane to pass, and you have to go over the posted limit to do this. I wonder how the self driving AI software accounts for this.
There is. Or rather, there might be. In the US, some states allow you speed while passing. The qualifications on how much you can speed range from "reasonable margin of safety" to specific numbers. And, some states further limit the situations where you can do this, for instance to only allowing it on two lane roads where you're pulling into the oncoming lane to pass.
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually I find this stuff pretty annoying already. Cars nowadays (some do it worse than others) "alert" you of lots of stuff. Such as "lane departure" beeps if you didn't use the blinker. Yes sure, using the blinker is a good idea. Is it really 100% necessary in all situations? Absolutely not. Of course technically the beeping car is correct and making you adhere to the rules of the road. In practice it's just annoy…
I haven't used a car with one of the speed systems so I don't really know enough to judge hope reliable it is, which is an important factor in evaluating it. I do disagree with your justifications though. To start with for indicators it is true that sometimes they aren't necessary, in fact with everyone driving appropriately they shouldn't ever be needed to avoid crashes. However people are pretty bad at judging thei…
I have actually been in situations where swerving around an obstacle that appeared suddenly was the best option more than once. If I had hit the brakes, someone could have been seriously hurt (not just talking about making metal and plastic trash out of a car) - sometimes that someone being me, by being squished by something much larger, heavier and better built than my car's tiny crumple zone. Think huge - probably full of heavy stuff too - truck trailer coming at me with its broad side. If I had hit the brakes instead of speeding around it, I would not be writing this.
In such a situation you do not have time to think about a button you have to press to disable some "please adhere to the speed limit" software. You ideally want to be in an automatic transmission car where you can just floor the pedal and it makes a jump, unless you're a able to shift down quickly like a race car driver and floor it. I guess my point is that these system really do need to take into account the worst case you can imagine and make that worst case safe.
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#54I think the title is a bit misleading. The mandate is for intelligent speed assistance. I own a car with such a feature and I think it's already pretty common in higher-end vehicles even without the mandate. The form it takes in my car is that there's a little symbol with the current speed limit displayed on the HUD. The speed limit is sourced from road signs or the car's navigation data. When you exceed the speed li…
> However if you never turn on "cruise control", the feature is nothing but an easy to ignore red symbol on your HUD. So I drove a rental car that had this feature enabled and I found it not only infuriating but distracting as well. It didn't help that it would come on at the worst possible times. Like when I was driving and had to change lanes to pass someone or let another car in. This is exactly the time where I w…
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#55I think the title is a bit misleading. The mandate is for intelligent speed assistance. I own a car with such a feature and I think it's already pretty common in higher-end vehicles even without the mandate. The form it takes in my car is that there's a little symbol with the current speed limit displayed on the HUD. The speed limit is sourced from road signs or the car's navigation data. When you exceed the speed li…
Honestly, if this is how it's implemented in every car (the article just vaguely says that some cars slow down automatically, without specifying how easy it is to override), then this is a surprisingly reasonable implementation. (Surprising, because politicians, especially in Europe, tend to go for reality-ignoring nanny-state solutions nowadays). I think doing it in a way that's respectful of the owner is a good way…
Examples?
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#56>"In some versions, the vehicle’s speed is automatically reduced. But users can ignore the warnings and override speed reductions." For now, there's no way this doesn't expand in scope at some point in the future.
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> However if you never turn on "cruise control", the feature is nothing but an easy to ignore red symbol on your HUD. So I drove a rental car that had this feature enabled and I found it not only infuriating but distracting as well. It didn't help that it would come on at the worst possible times. Like when I was driving and had to change lanes to pass someone or let another car in. This is exactly the time where I w…
It's not very encouraging that you are trying to overtake someone by speeding.
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#58I think the title is a bit misleading. The mandate is for intelligent speed assistance. I own a car with such a feature and I think it's already pretty common in higher-end vehicles even without the mandate. The form it takes in my car is that there's a little symbol with the current speed limit displayed on the HUD. The speed limit is sourced from road signs or the car's navigation data. When you exceed the speed li…
I've wanted something like this in my vehicles for many years.
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
the problem is that the car will limit your speed. it will not just alert you. this is incredibly dangerous as sometimes you need to drive over the speed limit to avoid accidents or dangerous drivers. instead of introducing this they should send drivers to driving school and make the police check driver licenses more often and arrest those driving without a license. in germany you can drive at any speed you want in c…
I have never really liked that in the USA, the posted speed limit is both the normal speed of travel and the maximum speed permitted. I think legally there should be some allowance for exceeding the speed limit when passing. We have some sections where one must move into the opposing traffic lane to pass, and you have to go over the posted limit to do this. I wonder how the self driving AI software accounts for this.
Re: New EU rules on car speed limiters coming into force
#60This is great, data shows that beeping is effective for increasing seatbelts usage, I see no reason why this wouldn't apply to speeding. I hope they take this a step further. Cars should not be able to exceed 90mph unless you have a special license for the track. 99.9% of drivers are not tracking their car and theres absolutely no reason a 6000lb pick up truck needs to go 150mph under any circumstance. https://www.nc…
How often do your seatbelt warning give out false positives? How high false rate would people accept before they removed/rigged the device? One major reason why ignition locks that uses breathalyzers has failed to gain popularity is false positives. Police always do a blood test after a positive breath test, because those breathalyzers have know faults when it comes to a number of substances, including bread, fruit,…