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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by philistine »

mrtksn wrote: post #60

We really need to finish with this content removal business and simply hold people accountable for the content. In other words, YouTube or any "utility level" platform should not have the right to remove content by its own and just request information to protect itself. For example, if someone is posting about something harmful the videos should remain and the person who does that should face the consequences. It's n…

The thing is the whole house of cards was built on pseudonymous growth. Most Youtube accounts can be traced back to specific people and corporations, sure, but it takes a lot of manual effort to figure it out and the success rate is not 100%. And what do you do when the person is based in a country with no regards for the rule of law, no extradition treaty with the US, yet its citizens still have the ability to post videos to Youtube?

What you're proposing would not only slow down the growth of Youtube, it would contract it. And proposing to Google that anything they do should get smaller for the benefit of mankind is somehow a cardinal sin against capitalism.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#92

Post by daemin »

Gigachad wrote: post #16
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Just the other day youtube suggested me this cutsie "what to do with old microwaves" video that just had the corporate jingle music over a video of a guy building various things out of microwave transformers without any kind of narration or warning of the danger. Considering people are actually dying trying these microwave tricks, this is no longer a theoretical concern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UfglFeOH8 (m…

"For entertainment only" is such a cop-out, do whatever dangerous thing and show step by step instructions but then slap on a "for entertainment only" on it so you're safe from legal repecussions.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by framapotari »

ajross wrote: post #87
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

> Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! I know it's tempting to blame modern technological monstrosities for this nonsense, but kids were lighting toasters on fire before the internet. Source: lit a toaster on fire, prior to the January 1983 IPv4 migration on the ARPANET (and long before I knew w…

I don't think anyone was blaming modern technology, or anything specific, for this nonsense?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by philistine »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #62
elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

It probably should have been more than 3 hours given that you likely mean "voltage" not "amps". Before everyone jumps on me, "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage", I understand electricity quite well and in this context, saying something like "handling high amps in a university" is almost certainly not what was taught.

Also, it's not electronic safety, its straight up electrical safety. There are no electronics in a magnetron.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by astura »

pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Ann Reardon's (subject of this article) channel calls out these other channels and she even tries to recreate these fake crafts to prove they are fake.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by julianlam »

kordlessagain wrote: post #75
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

We had an employee who once tried cooking bacon in a toaster oven and it caught on fire. Filled the office with smoke, so it happens.

Well then this employee must've done it wrong, because I cook bacon in my toaster over (and now an air fryer) all the time.

However, you do need a tray on which the bacon sits, which was perhaps your employee's mistake.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by melenaboija »

dazzawazza wrote: post #3

Big Clive has a good video on why this is dangerous and how to make it more safe. Note: not safe safe, just more safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro

It is interesting to see that also exist channels that monetize how to make these experiments less likely to kill you using a 15 minutes video explaining some physics and one diagram.

More legit than the ones that kill you faster but still part of the same game, specially seeing the title “The most deadly project of the internet”

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by cupofpython »

rtkwe wrote: post #51
cupofpython wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster Do you have a fancy toaster? I wouldve just replaced mine, although mine is pretty basic

That's a super wasteful solution to this. The toaster is perfectly salvageable.

So drop it off at a salvage location. OP was complaining about salvaging it, like it was necessary. If you want to do is as a fun personal project, go for it, but it is wasteful of human time to salvage something that cheap rather than add it to a scrap pile for a professional salvage company to process in bulk.

As a bonus, the kid learns that if you arent careful with your items they may break and be gone. you dont waste hours of your time on something that should cost about 1 hour of your time at work max.

Edit: Agree to disagree, but my post is still a valid position to hold and im open to conversation. but sure use downvote as a dislike button - we are all familiar with where that gets us.

okay guess im an asshole. go use a salvaged toaster in your kitchen. for $20, id rather not risk burning my house down or teaching my kids to put their hands inside the toaster but to each their own

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by dmix »

samizdis wrote: post #56
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

How do you deal with the dripping cheese part? I’m guessing a tray at the bottom you need to clean?
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