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What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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walrus01 wrote: post #38
__s wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't know context of joke here, so looked it up: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/11/jamie-dimon-quickly-... The quotation seems to be garbled in that link, https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/jamie-dimon-jokes-jpmorgan... has one that makes more sense > The Communist Party is celebrating its 100th year. So is JPMorgan. And I’ll make you a bet we last longer. Tho second link isn't a citation for: > I can’t say th…

If you really want to ensure you're on the CCP's shit list, casually call it Occupied West Taiwan and show a Kuomintang flag.

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Post by igorkraw »

adriand wrote: post #75
chongli wrote: post #62

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It is remarkable but it shouldn’t be surprising. As the article says, the WTA is a women’s sports association and arguably the most successful one in the world. If the WTA caved to pressure from China then they would rightly be vilified in the west for betraying women. There is no way they could ever do that and get away with it!

Perhaps women are also better at speaking truth to power.

I can't help but wonder this myself, although I don't think it is safe/easy to say this with confidence - but if you look at Jane Jacobs, Hannah Arendt, Simone Weil, Rosa Luxemburg, Chelsea Manning and others, I sometimes think about whether being in the historically weaker societal role sharpens your insight and moral cohones. I don't believe there's enough evidence to say it's there, but I would buy a story that went something like the subtle machismo men suck up as they get socialised might hinder us in those regards.

But then I look to certain contemporary female lesbian politicians in my country and I reconsider that...and there have been people like David Graeber, James Scott, Mikhael Bakunin, Peter Kropotkin, Edward Snowden and many others as well.

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Post by alkonaut »

I wish another org would follow suit ahead of the Winter Olympics. A brilliant move would be if the ice hockey tournament would be moved to Taiwan, much like the world championships were pulled from Belarus recently. Who would lose? Sponsors would be happy, players would be happy.

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Post by jdonaldson »

rectang wrote: post #6

> With the Winter Olympics opening in Beijing in February, the IOC and corporate sponsors have multi-billion-dollar reasons to help China make the Peng Shuai story go away. Therein lies a bleak lesson. The WTA has been brave in challenging China, given that it has organised lucrative tournaments there. But as a women’s sports association, it depends on retaining the confidence of women players. Sometimes there are in…

I'm not a big fan of China, but it's probably best if our business leaders didn't mock each other's countries in poor taste.

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jdonaldson wrote: post #95
rectang wrote: post #6

> With the Winter Olympics opening in Beijing in February, the IOC and corporate sponsors have multi-billion-dollar reasons to help China make the Peng Shuai story go away. Therein lies a bleak lesson. The WTA has been brave in challenging China, given that it has organised lucrative tournaments there. But as a women’s sports association, it depends on retaining the confidence of women players. Sometimes there are in…

I'm not a big fan of China, but it's probably best if our business leaders didn't mock each other's countries in poor taste.

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Post by temp8964 »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #61
boomskats wrote: post #27

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What's your opinion on this alternative translation posted a couple of days ago? https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/qzhxao/translation_... It attempts to highlight a few cultural nuances missing from the original translation. However it hasn't had any native speakers weigh in on it on r/tennis.

It's commendable that he tried adding more notes but on the whole I don't find it more useful to English speakers than the version I linked. The version you linked also has some things I disagree with: I disagree with note 4, claiming that that paragraph is her evidence for non-consensual relationship. My reading of that paragraph (about 10 years ago, the previous time she had an affair) is that that was consensual,…

The "'rape allegation' narrative" is your imagination. Most news reports did not use the word "rape". "sexual assault" is commonly used in reporting this case. The Economist does not use rape either. "coercive sexual relationship" appeared in the first sentence. Stop making strawman attack.

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Post by anter »

guscost wrote: post #78
FooBarWidget wrote: post #65

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Cyrus Janssen, Daniel Dumbrill, Geopolitics In Conflict, Carl Zha, Brian Berletic.

I’ll add these to my sources, thanks.

Mind that some of those mentioned receive money from the CCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIrsmjRFxU

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Post by alkonaut »

_zamorano_ wrote: post #28

She has appeared several times on social media, and said she is ok, but prefer her privacy to be respected. IOC president has reportedly talked to her, and said she seems to be ok. What more do we need?

Transparency, reporting by free press, investigations…
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