They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955)

Post by solarhoma » Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:12 PM UTC

sfg wrote: post #47

jolux wrote: post #9

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Antifascists aren't holding rallies chanting "Jews will not replace us" and showing up to peaceful protests with weapons to kill protesters. The amount of paramilitary activity on the left is minimal, especially when compared to the right, adherents of which been caught in several (edit: at least one, Governor Whitmer, I can't find evidence of others right now) plots over the past few months to kidnap and even murder…

> Unfortunately, the message will be lost by those who are most in need of hearing it.

Post by NicoJuicy » Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:13 PM UTC

anonunivgrad wrote: post #26

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Much of the violence at protests this past summer was actually organized by right-wing extremists, possibly as a false flag: https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-po...

Fake spin meant to assuage the girondins, the well-to-do leftists. The footage and evidence is extensive and obvious.

Post by jolux » Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:13 PM UTC

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What am I supposed to think about the intent of the other side when they're trying to get a legitimate election result overturned to support their preferred presidential candidate? Who isn't living in reality here? This is not a far left position, and it's not the left that is driving FUD about US election integrity.

You're supposed to recognize that many of your positions look equally bizarre and scary to the other side, and conclude that to a significant degree this is a gap in understanding rather than a gap in morals.

Post by SpicyLemonZest » Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

lisper wrote: post #68

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You're missing substantial historical perspective here. In both 2000 and 2004 - the last two Republican presidential victories that are old enough to talk about without inflaming modern political tensions - Congressional representatives on the left attempted to block the counting of electoral college votes from a crucial swing state. I don't mean to defend these kinds of challenges, I think they're dumb, but they're…

> Congressional representatives on the left attempted to block the counting of electoral college votes from a crucial swing state Reference?

Post by jolux » Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

solarhoma wrote: post #87

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You're saying he shot someone. That was alleged, and he was never arrested or charged. Like I said, some leftists are believers in armed self defense. I am not. But the fact of the matter is we will never know the full details of that case. I condemn bringing weapons to protests as fully as I condemn equating the role of violence on the left and the right in America right now.

Vice interviewed the person who killed the Trump supporter in cold blood. Yes, there was no official case against the person. But the police knew who the murderer was. This is why a shootout occurred and no other individual is being charged or sought after AFAIK.