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Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

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Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

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post #87

So it’s just a coincidence that Dr. Li Wenliang, who was 34, died and he only had a 0.2% chance of dying? I find this too much of a coincidence. There is no way these numbers can be correct.

My tinfoil hat wonders if he actually died from other causes.

Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And screencapped image: https://imgur.com/a/Ve5gT3O (posted by me)

Seems like the larger correlation in deaths is related to societal status - farmers, laborers, and retirees have much higher death rates.

Farmers — likely crappy rural healthcare.

Retirees — obviously age-skewed.

Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

#93
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dr. Li Wenliang, who warned of Covid early on, was also only 34 years old.

Doctors and nurses are exposed to a much higher viral load than most people. In Wuhan, they may also overwork and have insufficient sleep.

> higher viral load

What is "higher viral load"? Isn't it binary - you are either infected or not?

Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much can we trust the data coming from the American CDC? Why exactly would you distrust China, besides racism?

Not OP, but: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/02/coron... I personally have trust that at least in the US, a whistleblower would speak out to media if the official announcement doesn't agree with the records s/he can see. Maybe this is also blind faith that the system still works in the US. Who knows if Trump has installed loyalists that deep, who will only report good news: https://www.theguardian…

US government has been lying to its population for centuries. For example, all of the bioweapons testing on the domestic US population was done without consent and no whistleblower came forth until the programs were declassified. On the world stage, the US may lie more than China, review our last dozen or so manufactured narratives to engage in regime change...mostly propaganda.

We don't seem to use the same ruler to measure the honesty of both countries. Historically speaking, a lot more people end up dead when the US lies. See Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Vietnam, Syria, Korea, a lot of South/Central American countries, etc....

Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

#95
post #40

This page only has death rates, not number of cases for each group, so it only tells half of the story. See Table 1 of the actual paper for complete stats (source of the stats on the linked page). http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9...

And screencapped image: https://imgur.com/a/Ve5gT3O (posted by me)

What would explain kids being so immune? ~1000 confined cases under 19 year old while you have 10 000 50-59 year olds?

Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

#97
post #52

There seems to be many cases of young patients dying in Iran. Either because there are way more cases than being officially reported or (hopefully not) the virus has mutated to affect the young more, or both. The first hypothesis is likely based on the number of infections found in international travellers who went to Iran. We still cannot rule out the second hypothesis though. A 23-year-old woman soccer player: http…

Iran said it had no cases up until the moment it announced 4 people had died. Its safe to assume that the scope of the infection in Iran is either far greater than they have been able to track, or far greater than they are willing to admit. I think its less likely that the virus is killing more young people in Iran, and more likely that there are thousands if not tens of thousands of cases in Iran that simply haven't been counted/reported.

Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

#98
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The general issue with this measure of mortality (dead/infected) is that you're assuming that the infected won't die. On the other hand, there are also a lot of infected who only have a mild version and are never checked and recorded, which swings it in the other direction. Edit: Seems like the parent post later edited their post to mention the above.

In the hardest hit areas like Wuhan, almost everyone has been tested.

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Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

#99
post #2

How much can we trust the data coming out of China?

We can't but it doesn't matter anymore, the data from South Korea, Italy and Japan will be the most interesting for the next week or so. Then I would imagine each country will be gathering a lot more data as it spreads further in another generation.

I wouldn't put too much faith in the data coming out of Japan at the moment. People are being told to only report to doctors if they are showing serious symptoms associated with the illness. Japan has a "gaman" (perseverance) culture, so I'm worried a lot of cases are gonna be people sitting at home trying to power through what they think is just the run of the mill flu.

Re: Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

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This is the email I sent my team last night. We should consider working from home. You may all have seen the news by now. A patient was just diagnosed with COVID-19 at UC Davis after having no known contact with anyone travelling. Importantly, they were diagnosed after being intubated already for 7 days. It is suspected that this is the first known case of public transmission of the virus in the US. From what we know…

Compared to many other countries, the United States has unpredictably overpriced medical costs that specifically burden the patient. my concern is that it's trained many people (especial those living paycheck to paycheck) to simply not seek medical services unless their condition demands the emergency room. I feel this economic reality will create conditions advantagous to the spread of Covid 19 in the United States.

I think you're pretty far off the mark here.

>90% of people have healthcare coverage in the U.S.[1]. Those that don't are likely illegal or homeless or in some way don't qualify for medical coverage (I also don't know how prisoners are counted in the data).

Many people I know visit the doctor way more often than they need to or should (I know those who receive it free to purchase it to use employer insurance - like myself).

People will seek medical treatment and in this case will overwhelm the system if they get nervous they have this disease.

[1] https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2019/demo/p60-26...

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