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Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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What’s the mobile vs computer demographics here? Me thinks twitter is telling a little twattle.

Just compare the other comments in this very thread: > I do exactly that behavior all the time. > Can't disagree with Twitter's reasoning there, anecdotally I myself have done that many times. > I spoke with a someone recently who uses gmail on his Android device. An ad at the top that resembles an email appears about a second after his real emails appear, timed perfectly to interrupt his attempt to tap and read his…

These comments feel oversold.. but one could agree with the dysfunctional by design revenue generation. I don’t think you need to be dysfunctional here.

Re: Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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Target has teams with context and experience in how to properly use, measure and attribute those numbers. 99% of start-ups, even very well funded ones, don't.

What do youbmean by that? When I buy something at Target stores, they have absolutely no way to attribute whether I saw something on TV, a billboard, the aisle, their junk mail in my mailbox, or online.

I believe that Google can link in-store purchases to online ad exposure for most credit card users in the US. They've done this by doing a deal with MasterCard to integrate sales data cookie data. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-30/google-an...

Re: Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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On a side note, if you use instagram, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but literally every 3-4 pictures is an ad now. It's so annoying, they're completely ruining the experience and it affects my retention rate and my will to come back.

I no longer use the app, open the website in a browser with an ad blocker, and its is almost usable again.

Re: Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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I too can support with anecdotal evidence for that (my wife). One of her habits is browsing Facebook ads and she end up actually buying stuff from those sites.

What products has she bought?

Mostly fashion related as those are something you don't search for but an impulse purchase. Fb is mostly like window shopping or street shopping - you have no idea what you want but you like something and take it. I on the other hand if I have to buy something will google it or go to amazon directly.

Re: Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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I genuinely don't understand why anyone, anywhere, would trust Facebook with anything. They've been nothing but unethical and misleading from the start. I'm not saying this to be hyperbolic - it simply seems like a poor business decision to get involved with them.

Re: Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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Is this company legit imploding?

At this point they might be "too big to fail".

I think there's a risk that Facebook won't be replaced, because may early adopters won't sign up for any new social network. Both Facebook and Google have severely hurt the trust of many, to the point where they will be reluctant to sign up for any new alternatives in the fear that they will eventually be equally "evil".

Re: Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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I am a direct response marketer, and only manage ad campaigns that provably generate revenue. Over $10,000,000 spend across more than a dozen companies. I can tell you that for many products Facebook absolutely outperforms Google.

For sure there are people who are careful with their spending and smart with their marketing. But there's been too many reports of bot activity, fake likes, fake followers in those platforms that I'm sure many companies and marketing departments fall for them. Not everyone does as good job as you Im sure. Google, as far as I know, was never caught in dark ui patterns or fake number reports to generate revenue. They d…

Google, as far as I know, was never caught in dark ui patterns or fake number reports to generate revenue. They don't seem to need it.

Autoplay videos with ads?

Re: Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch times: lawsuit

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Just as a point of reference, as a very infrequent Instagram user (Maybe once a week, often much less) I have yet to see a single ad. So it seems like they scale the amount of ads they show depending on how heavily you use the service.

I've also stopped using it. I just went there for the first time in months and counted the sponsored posts. They appear every 4, 5 or 6 posts. Are you sure you don't mistake sponsored post for real ones?

I'm also a very infrequent user. I just checked my feed very carefully, making sure each photo was from someone I was following, and it was over 50 posts before I saw an ad.
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