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Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#91
post #81

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How do you think they should signal users?

> "Search results for "Kodi" have been removed because you might use it for illegal stuff"

But results for "Kodi" haven't been removed. Autocompletion when you type "kod" or "ko" has. I'm trying to think of a non-disruptive way to pop up "we would have completed this term with 'kodi' but oh hey nevermind you went on to type 'koala'" and I'm failing.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#92
post #15

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> Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi? I really don't think the audience for Kodi is that big. It requires you to have DRM-less, local copies of any TV or movie you want to watch, and how many people - legally - have that? Not many. I know because I'm one of those people, and use Plex, despite its faults. Also, last I used Kodi it was one (very big) codebase. Plex is split out into…

What I was thinking of is using Kodi as the base for an open smart TV platform. It already has good integration of live broadcast TV (including EPG etc) and many add-ons for streaming services. Of course, to make consumers happy, there needs to be a way to support DRM, otherwise there won't be Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc. But Kodi announced last year that they're discussing about allowing DRM add-ons to talk with the…

Unless Kodi has changed substantially, even though it exposes an interface for live TV, it provides no mechanism for tuning, capturing a stream, or writing it to disc/DVR. That’s all passed off to a third-party backend like MythTV.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#94
post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

Since no one will ever find Kodi now that they have to type 4 letters instead of 4, maybe the devs should look into working on a new search engine.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#95
post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

Kodi pirates did not destroy their reputation. Every semi-open platform has pirate users. Those that created piracy boxes and put the kodi logo right next to pirate services and legit services that addons enabled the piracy of probably contributed though. But most, if not all these boxes run kodi on top of Android, and their reputation hasn't been sullied from this.

I think Kodi could partially mitigate this issue by selling clean kodi boxes. I still don't know where I can buy one.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#96
post #82

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I think that they clearly aren't conflating the two. "Whether one agrees or not" is "Regardless of whether you consider Google's/Dick's actions moral". The question was why gun manufacturers aren't legally accountable for crimes committed with their products while software developers are. The (paraphrased) answer provided is "They aren't; Google removing Kodi from autocomplete is similar to sporting goods stores remo…

The Kodi project is not legally accountable for civil infringement committed with their devices for the same reason that gun manufacturers aren’t. Because both have legal purposes. The fact that people do illegal things with them is not the manufacturer’s fault in this case. In the US, tort law defines manufacturer liability and there is no negligence or design defect. There are manufacturers who solely make piracy b…

I agree with everything you wrote. The switchblade case sounds interesting; I hadn't heard about it before, but that certainly makes sense.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#97
post #43

>Google has banned the term “Kodi” from its autocomplete feature, meaning those who look for information on the set-top box will have to type out the full term in order to search, as reported by TorrentFreak. >While Kodi is a legal set-top box for streaming, it supports a myriad of third-party add-ons that provide access to pirated media. Kodi is not a "set-top box". Kodi is software. A set-top box might be pre-loade…

> This sort of mangling is disappointing from a tech-focused news outlet like The Verge. It also reinforces the implicit association between Kodi and piracy, which is the very thing that caused Google to remove Kodi from search results in the first place. This sort of mangling is exactly how exaggerated misrepresented news gets spread. Google didn't remove Kodi from their search results. You can type Kodi and it's th…

Right, but... imo google can fuck right off. I’m really not sure who wants corporate interests nudging them like this.

Google is allowed to curate thisr autocomplete to remove links to 6degree piracy topics, and even promote a candidate by removing negative results like they did for Clinton - and I’m allowed to consider them actually-evil for doing so.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#98
post #40

Google's mission statement: https://www.google.com/about/our-company/ “Organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful.” Since the beginning, our goal has been to develop services that significantly improve the lives of as many people as possible. Not just for some. For everyone. To decrement something would appear to be contrary to making it universally accessible.

Are you just figuring out that google is actually evil?

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#99
post #52

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One has a Constitutional amendment. The other doesn't. Also, gun owners are better organized than content consumers or technologists.

There's no constitutional amendment protecting gun manufacturers from being sued. Only a law.

Along with precedent and logical thinking.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I was thinking of is using Kodi as the base for an open smart TV platform. It already has good integration of live broadcast TV (including EPG etc) and many add-ons for streaming services. Of course, to make consumers happy, there needs to be a way to support DRM, otherwise there won't be Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc. But Kodi announced last year that they're discussing about allowing DRM add-ons to talk with the…

Unless Kodi has changed substantially, even though it exposes an interface for live TV, it provides no mechanism for tuning, capturing a stream, or writing it to disc/DVR. That’s all passed off to a third-party backend like MythTV.

The latest version of Kodi can play Netflix and Amazon using plugins they are working on drm management for official stream apps.
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