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Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Nobody is talking about weither google is legally allowed to do this, stop conflating legality with morality.

I think that they clearly aren't conflating the two. "Whether one agrees or not" is "Regardless of whether you consider Google's/Dick's actions moral". The question was why gun manufacturers aren't legally accountable for crimes committed with their products while software developers are. The (paraphrased) answer provided is "They aren't; Google removing Kodi from autocomplete is similar to sporting goods stores remo…

The Kodi project is not legally accountable for civil infringement committed with their devices for the same reason that gun manufacturers aren’t. Because both have legal purposes. The fact that people do illegal things with them is not the manufacturer’s fault in this case.

In the US, tort law defines manufacturer liability and there is no negligence or design defect.

There are manufacturers who solely make piracy boxes running Kodi who are frequently charged (https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/25/kodi-box-guilty-reversal...). And if gun manufacturers marketed a device with a primary purpose of murder they would likely be charged.

In business law class, we had a case about a switchblade manufacturer adding features only useful for stabbing people. But I can’t find a real reference on Google.

Link- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_liability

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#84

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They could change their name back to XBMC.

pretty sure the reasons they changed the name are still valid and outweigh what they'd gain https://kodi.tv/article/xbmc-getting-new-name-introducing-ko...

So the main[1] reason they changed the name was because they "have never had any sort of legal control over the use of its name". Clearly, based on the issue at hand, the name change hasn't helped.

[1] I don't buy that they needed to change the name because "XBMC" didn't make sense anymore. "Kodi" is just as nonsensical as "XBMC", if not more so.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#85

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pretty sure the reasons they changed the name are still valid and outweigh what they'd gain https://kodi.tv/article/xbmc-getting-new-name-introducing-ko...

So the main[1] reason they changed the name was because they "have never had any sort of legal control over the use of its name". Clearly, based on the issue at hand, the name change hasn't helped. [1] I don't buy that they needed to change the name because "XBMC" didn't make sense anymore. "Kodi" is just as nonsensical as "XBMC", if not more so.

> Clearly, based on the issue at hand, the name change hasn't helped

They were only referring to ability to sue over misuse (say I make a KodiBox and sell it). Google omitting from auto-complete isn't relevant.

I think main reason wasn't that however, but was to prevent legal activity from Microsoft. (I suspect there were undisclosed related conversations)

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Not sure what your point is here. Google went to-the-max apeshit insane in their censoring/blocking of gun-related product searches recently, to the point that Google Products search wouldn't return anything labelled with the color burgundy. Surely Google thinks gun manufacturers are so intensely bad as to have 'punished' them via search controls Far, far more than they have here with Kodi. Aside: Neither of these se…

"armalite" auto completes and even helpfully suggest the AR15, the exact weapon used in all the most spectacular massacres. I'm not suggesting Google interfere with either. I'm suggesting copyright forces have an unreasonable amount of clout, much of it invisible. More even than a mass movement against school massacres.

Lol and so? If school shooters had used ak47's, which fire a larger caliber bullet, are extremely available, have higher capacity magazines and will never breakdown. No one would give the slightest fuck, because everyone already knows bad guys use ak's. American's just have their panties.in a knot because the good guy guns are being used by bad guys. Hell you can go buy a semi automatic shotgun with a big enough clip that would leave a classroom splattered with nothing but pieces of children....but yeah....ar15's...Lol.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#87

>Google has banned the term “Kodi” from its autocomplete feature, meaning those who look for information on the set-top box will have to type out the full term in order to search, as reported by TorrentFreak. >While Kodi is a legal set-top box for streaming, it supports a myriad of third-party add-ons that provide access to pirated media. Kodi is not a "set-top box". Kodi is software. A set-top box might be pre-loade…

> very thing that caused Google to remove Kodi from search results in the first place The irony is that Google has made far more money off of "piracy" than Kodi. The sad thing is that a certain select set of companies gets special privileges while open source endeavors like Kodi get shafted. If Kodi had a lot of private consumer data to trade for legal immunities it would be a different story.

Isn’t it funny that Google has likely been one of the biggest beneficiaries of illegal content on the internet? Just think how many YT and Google searches end with “full movie” or “torrent.”

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Unlike victims of gun crimes, the victims of copyright violation have the money and lobbying power to effect change.

Unlike victims of gun crimes, the victims of copyright violation do not need to contend with a fundamental right to effect change.

While that certainly does factor in, it normally just means that it takes longer for it to change. And well, people have been murdered with guns for centuries already, so I think those would cancel each other out.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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So the main[1] reason they changed the name was because they "have never had any sort of legal control over the use of its name". Clearly, based on the issue at hand, the name change hasn't helped. [1] I don't buy that they needed to change the name because "XBMC" didn't make sense anymore. "Kodi" is just as nonsensical as "XBMC", if not more so.

> Clearly, based on the issue at hand, the name change hasn't helped They were only referring to ability to sue over misuse (say I make a KodiBox and sell it). Google omitting from auto-complete isn't relevant. I think main reason wasn't that however, but was to prevent legal activity from Microsoft. (I suspect there were undisclosed related conversations)

> Google omitting from auto-complete isn't relevant.

I disagree. They wanted legal control of their name, yet now they have it and Google considers it a piracy search term. Microsoft speculation aside, they didn't gain anything because pirate-box makers don't care about legal action to begin with.

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