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Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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You could always support other search engines -- but as the former CTO of blekko, I'm not going to ever ship an autocomplete that by default returns nasty stuff for [blacks are] or [why do blacks] or a large number of other phrases which produce terrible, terrible autocomplete results.

Yeah, that was my point. Why would google have autocomplete options that give them a bad image? Why should anyone other than google decide what a good image is?

Ah, I misunderstood your point. Yes, it's an editorial thing, and even as a personal fan of unfiltered results, I can't bring myself to ship horrific autocomplete suggestions.

Unfortunately the existence of an autocomplete filtering system does lead to increased pressure to use it for more than just racism and porn.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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No, unlike gun owners and manufacturers, software developers have no effective lobbying organization and get treated liked 2nd class citizens. No one fears angering software developers before an election.

> No, unlike gun owners and manufacturers, software developers have no effective lobbying organization They just haven't been clever enough to organize their own customers , or some other mass front, politically the way the gun industry has.

I think your reversing that, as the customers are out front. That's the mistake that keeps getting made by the NRA's opponents. The NRA is only effective because its people over industry. Industry-lead groups need a whole lot more funding to be effective.

Any software developer that is looking for leadership from the software industry is going to be very disappointed. Often, the industry doesn't really have the best instance of developers in mind.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#65

How is it that software makers are culpable when their product us used to commit a crime but not gun manufactures? Is it that copyright violation is such a "heinous" crime that special rules apply?

One has a Constitutional amendment. The other doesn't. Also, gun owners are better organized than content consumers or technologists.

The vast majority of use cases of Kodi would be covered by the 1st amendment.

In recent decades even the most frivolous copyright claims supersedes the 1st amendment in the eyes of both the courts and corporations. I imagine if they were invented today, the xerox, tape-recorder or printing-press would have a very hard time.

But you are right, consumers and technologist have near zero clout.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

Equally sad as the existence of the terrible Kodi piracy boxes is that the legitimate set top box/"smart TV" industry is completely ignoring it. I'm not aware of any TV manufacturer building Kodi into their product, instead they invent their own junk, which is usually much worse. Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

The company I work for creates STB software, and while we do use a large number of open source components the message from above is to avoid GPL where possible. Any use of GPLv2 must be signed off after review, GPLv3 is simply banned.

Unfortunately most companies in the sector, from hardware manufacturers to integrators, have equivalent, if not worse open-source policies. They are willing to take the hard work of others where it will accelerate development, but view sharing back as a loss of control and competitive advantage.

This is in part due to pressure from operators and content providers, who are very fearful of losing control over distribution and tend to view anything open with deep suspicion.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#68
post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

They could change their name back to XBMC.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#69

Streisand effect, anyone? I had not heard of Kodi before this.

For what it's worth, unfamiliarity might have something to do with the fact Kodi has only existed under that name for a couple years.

Prior to that, it was known as XBMC ("XBox Media Center"). Under that title it's been around since 2003.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

They could change their name back to XBMC.

pretty sure the reasons they changed the name are still valid and outweigh what they'd gain

https://kodi.tv/article/xbmc-getting-new-name-introducing-ko...

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