Remember a short time ago when there was a failed coup in turkey, and the NEXT DAY, the regime fired 4000 judicial officials and civil servants? It's almost as if they had the list of people ready to go before the false flag coup... Nah,an autocratic regime would never do that!
Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use
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#92In my experience, these countries do not have the sophistication to do such things on their own, they usually hire (often Western) outside firms to do this. I think it would be helpful if the press would 'name names' in terms of the companies that are enabling this.
Turkey has the technology. I have worked on one. Turkish science council gives large grants for national security related technologies. So even it is not profitable, technologies like DPI are developed by several private firms.
That's very interesting. Turkey is a really intriguing place - they are on the threshold of so many thing, culturally, politically, economically. On some days they seem like a regular, modern nation ... the next day there is a 'coup attempt' and the Prez. is announcing mass jailings :)
Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use
#93Decentralization is key to bypass these type of firewalls. All commercial VPN vendors will be on blacklists sooner or later. Hang around lowendtalk / lowendbox and rent a tiny dir cheap VPS. Just SSH there and use the SOCKS5 proxy built into SSH. I hope they will not block SSH any time soon. If they do you can set up a HTTPS website on your VPS with a secret proxy.
How? I bet most commercial VPN services rotates on billions of different IPv6 addresses (from completely different subnets that is).
IPv6 allocations are generally /64s, or /56s, and are typically blocked as a full range.
Individually blocking IPv6 addresses, as /128s, would indeed be futile.
Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use
#94Nothing unexpected for the 2016 Turkey. With everything that goes on in there now, it won't be too long until something really horrible happens. Boycott everything turkish is the only thing we can do as normal persons I guess. That is at least what I've done for a long while now.
Please don't. Poorer they are, more fanatic they get.
The poorer they get, more reason to get rid of the leaders. And that is something only the people can do.
Anyway, I can't justify it with what I know and what we hear almost daily now.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Racism is pretty much anti-correlated with the local percentage of foreign-born residents. C. f. Hungary. Also, this is still fantastic: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P9e2hoDKdUU/VFGYoFE7KnI/AAAAAAAAGt...
I'd heard that in passing, but in trying to research it, the best I can find is that studies of xenophobia are all over the map and completely contradictory: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rPNS83u... The only thing anyone seems to agree on is that the French really hate foreign workers. That said, I hope you turn out to be right, and the populist/nativist zeitgeist burns itself out.
I think basing this around countries is too fuzzy.
If you look at Germany it's pretty evident:
At a glance it seems that East Germans are more xenophobic/racist than West Germans. But that's only half the story. Once you look at population densities you quickly see that xenophobia is most widespread in the areas with the least dense population. But even then you can see a clear trend that absence of "foreigners" correlates with a higher level of xenophobia.
There may be a limit to this effect (e.g. I'm not sure what the numbers look like for areas with a "foreign" majority) but anecdotally people seem to be less xenophobic the more they are exposed to "foreigners" (usually with the cliché stopgap "obviously you're okay, but those other foreigners...").
Anecdotally in Germany there's also a phenomenon where Eastern European immigrants are more xenophobic/racist towards other immigrants than native Germans are. This may have to do with "Russland-Deutsche" historically seeing themselves as ethnic Germans rather than immigrants. As a counterpoint, the Iranian spree killer in Munich this year also was a xenophobe who considered himself German.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
China definitely has the capabilities they need. They might get help from Cisco, but they don't need to. I worked in an F50 that sold services, and we were constantly having to 'help' countries like Tunisia, Kazakstan etc. do some things we didn't want them to do, we tried to steer clear of being involved but we could not in some circumstances. But it wasn't that bad, it was mostly porn filtering and such.
What's an F50?
I guess it means Fortune 50.
Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use
#97The arrest and torture of an exorbitant number of 'enemies of the state', including judges, police officers, and teachers, indicates more important problems in Turkey. For some reason, a lot of Turks still seem to support Erdogan. The West doesn't really care what he does, as long as Turkey takes care of most of the refugees. A disgusting European policy.
Please resist the temptation to scoot right back up to generic politics in a thread like this. We've had that discussion before on Hacker News, let's try to have a new one.
Even though there is some technical information in it, the message of the article is purely political and I don't see how one can discuss this article without going into politics.
Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use
#98The arrest and torture of an exorbitant number of 'enemies of the state', including judges, police officers, and teachers, indicates more important problems in Turkey. For some reason, a lot of Turks still seem to support Erdogan. The West doesn't really care what he does, as long as Turkey takes care of most of the refugees. A disgusting European policy.
> A disgusting European policy. I suggest you understand it before you criticize it. It is called Westphalian Sovereignity[0] and Europeans have very solid and good reasons for it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_sovereignty
I meant the EU (initially) wanting to accept them on the sole premise of 'taking care' of refugees. Anybody in it's right mind wouldn't want to have anything to do with Turkey in it's current state.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because there is now a sufficient majority of Turks who want to destroy the secular Turkey, apply gradually more and more islamic country and get rid of Turkey's within enemies: Secular people and Kurds. Erdogan is just listening to the people like he says, he only additionally wants to destroy and humiliate his personal and political enemies because he is a psycho. Furthermore, he adores money, his family built an m…
That's a good question: if there's a majority of Turks who support the regime, what's the problem? Can't we like, leave them in peace? Do we have to impose western politics everywhere in the world??
If you don't vote for Erdogan, you have a serious problem. I don't like Hitler comparisons, and I don't want to say that Erdogan is comparable to Hitler, but it's a bit like saying 'If Hitler was elected democratically, what's the problem?'.
Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use
#100The arrest and torture of an exorbitant number of 'enemies of the state', including judges, police officers, and teachers, indicates more important problems in Turkey. For some reason, a lot of Turks still seem to support Erdogan. The West doesn't really care what he does, as long as Turkey takes care of most of the refugees. A disgusting European policy.
What do you think Europe should do?
Cancel (instead of 'freezing') the negotiations about Turkey entering the EU, cancel the refugee agreement , and set repercussions for the torture, control of media, use of intimidation for votes for Erdogan, the blackmail of the EU (and countless other things, but you get the picture).