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Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Post by wildmusings »

coldcode wrote: post #7

Could happen in any country, including the US, unless you have options to connect to the internet which is not heavily controlled. Sadly in the US we have only a few remaining ISPs with monopolies who in the near future will likely gain even more power to restrict the internet for profit; after that what is to stop the government from adding a few more "additions", like making illegal connections to TOR or unapproved…

I don't think the number of ISPs is really relevant. The rule of law is pretty strong in the United States. If the government made Tor illegal, and that law withstood constitutional scrutiny, it wouldn't really matter if there was one or one thousand ISPs.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Post by dijit »

retox wrote: post #6

And the EU says we should welcome them in to Europe...

Actually it was Britain who were arguing for their membership for years.

Most of the EU was wildly sceptical due to an incompatiblility of cultures.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11283...

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Post by kutkloon7 »

The arrest and torture of an exorbitant number of 'enemies of the state', including judges, police officers, and teachers, indicates more important problems in Turkey.

For some reason, a lot of Turks still seem to support Erdogan. The West doesn't really care what he does, as long as Turkey takes care of most of the refugees.

A disgusting European policy.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Post by willvarfar »

Anyone else remember the time the TurkTrust cert was used to mitm Google? https://www.google.se/amp/s/nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/01...

Does Turkey still have a key the gov can use to mitm connections terminating there?

And if so, can someone make instructions in Turkish on how to blacklist the Turkish TLS certs in mainstream browsers so that the gov can't mitm their own citizens?

For that matter, I don't want a Turkish root of trust in my own browser either, but the list of roots in our browsers is so long it's kinda meaningless to start zapping them - I mean, who trusts Verisign anyway?

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Post by edblarney »

wfn wrote: post #4
edblarney wrote: post #2

In my experience, these countries do not have the sophistication to do such things on their own, they usually hire (often Western) outside firms to do this. I think it would be helpful if the press would 'name names' in terms of the companies that are enabling this.

> they usually hire (often Western) outside firms to do this. Yep, such as Cisco which helps China, to quote Cisco's pitch slides, "combat ‘Falun Gong’ evil religion and other hostiles" ( https://www.wired.com/2008/05/leaked-cisco-do ; https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/files/cisco_p... (PDF)).

China definitely has the capabilities they need. They might get help from Cisco, but they don't need to.

I worked in an F50 that sold services, and we were constantly having to 'help' countries like Tunisia, Kazakstan etc. do some things we didn't want them to do, we tried to steer clear of being involved but we could not in some circumstances. But it wasn't that bad, it was mostly porn filtering and such.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Post by towb »

Nothing unexpected for the 2016 Turkey. With everything that goes on in there now, it won't be too long until something really horrible happens.

Boycott everything turkish is the only thing we can do as normal persons I guess. That is at least what I've done for a long while now.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Post by rahrahrah »

willvarfar wrote: post #14

Anyone else remember the time the TurkTrust cert was used to mitm Google? https://www.google.se/amp/s/nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/01... Does Turkey still have a key the gov can use to mitm connections terminating there? And if so, can someone make instructions in Turkish on how to blacklist the Turkish TLS certs in mainstream browsers so that the gov can't mitm their own citizens? For that matter, I don't want a Tu…

I've heard about problems with trusting certain certificates. Any suggestion where I can read about these specific matters that you mentioned? Thanks.
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