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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by kuschku »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #78
pdkl95 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same can be said for most juices, regardless of how recently they have been squeezed. While I usually suggest drinking something that isn't full of sugar, I'm glad science and engineering has found ways to store juice for long periods without spoiling. These techniques can probably be used in other ares. Advances in science and technology often have wider benefits, often unexpected. The only potential problem I s…

Quite right, which is why I never drink juice, and suggest you don't either.

Or you drink juice mixed with a lot of water.

Often even the Schorle sold in stores has too much juice, average seems to be at 60%[1], I prefer more like 30%. In the recent years, 5% to 10% Schorle has become increasingly popular.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apfelschorle

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by mc808 »

s_q_b wrote: post #61
badloginagain wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I charge you with the opposite task- prove industrial orange juice is healthier than juice squeezed from an orange.

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by avar »

beloch wrote: post #87

"Juice removed from the fruit is just concentrated fructose without any of the naturally-occurring fiber, pectin, and other goodies that make eating a whole fruit good for you. Did you know, for example, that it takes 6-8 medium sized apples to make just 1 cup of apple juice? You probably wouldn’t be able to eat 6-8 medium apples in a single sitting. (I know I can barely eat one!) But you can casually throw back a cu…

Does the fiber need to come with the sugar? What if I drink the equivalent of the apple juice in a couple of apples and chew on some lettuce which would contain the same amount of fiber as the apple?

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by yitchelle »

kuschku wrote: post #86
ricardobeat wrote: post #25

This is one of the little things that make me happy about the Netherlands: the local market chains sell lots of minimally industrialized products. Orange juice tastes fresh and will spoil in a couple of days. If you still don't trust it, there are machines where you can choose fruit and squeeze your own juice. And it's usually cheaper than the big-brand alternatives.

I did that at Edeka in Germany recently. It was the only time I bought orange juice that literally tasted fresh made. Well, because it was ^.^

Did the same thing at our local fruit store. They have a machine similar to this one.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/zumoval/10671215065

The juice tastes amazing, and the sweetness level is much lower.

Albert Heijn in the Netherlands is also big on these machines. We use it every time we visit.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by djur »

mikeash wrote: post #74
song wrote: post #42

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That's the thing, I love fresh orange juice. It tastes great. I do not really like Orange juice and I absolutely loath soda (it tastes awful). So I drink Orange Juice (and Apple Juice) because it tastes great.

Better than the actual orange?

Better brands of orange juice are more refreshing than the terrible, fibrous oranges that are available here for most of the year. I'd rather drink lemonade than eat a lemon, too, for that matter.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by avar »

usaphp wrote: post #73
ricardobeat wrote: post #25

This is one of the little things that make me happy about the Netherlands: the local market chains sell lots of minimally industrialized products. Orange juice tastes fresh and will spoil in a couple of days. If you still don't trust it, there are machines where you can choose fruit and squeeze your own juice. And it's usually cheaper than the big-brand alternatives.

I've heard many times that ordering a freshly squeezed juice from those machines is not so safe, they need to clean them pretty often to prevent E. coli and other dangerous pathogens from spreading, and since the machines that are squeezing this juice are not kept in refrigirator while operating - spreading this pathogens becomes an easy task

You've "heard many times"? It's obviously safe enough that an entire country has one in every supermarket. Do you think that the health & safety service in The Netherlands is so bad that it wouldn't be noticed if these things were causing regular E. coli outbreaks?

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by thaumasiotes »

cba9 wrote: post #80
thaumasiotes wrote: post #50

I found this a little odd: > Haven’t you ever wondered why every glass of Tropicana Pure Premium orange juice tastes the same, no matter where in the world you buy it or what time of year you’re drinking it in? Or maybe your brand of choice is Minute Maid or Simply Orange or Florida’s Natural. Either way, I can ask the same question. Why is the taste and flavor so consistent? And then > The packs added to juice earma…

Do you often shop at an American grocery store and then immediately at a Mexican or Brazilian grocery store?

No, but I'm not the one who claimed that orange juice from a given brand tastes the same no matter where in the world you buy it.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by beloch »

avar wrote: post #93
beloch wrote: post #87

"Juice removed from the fruit is just concentrated fructose without any of the naturally-occurring fiber, pectin, and other goodies that make eating a whole fruit good for you. Did you know, for example, that it takes 6-8 medium sized apples to make just 1 cup of apple juice? You probably wouldn’t be able to eat 6-8 medium apples in a single sitting. (I know I can barely eat one!) But you can casually throw back a cu…

Does the fiber need to come with the sugar? What if I drink the equivalent of the apple juice in a couple of apples and chew on some lettuce which would contain the same amount of fiber as the apple?

I'm no dietician, but I'd imagine it would be fine to do this. Of course, it takes about four cups of lettuce to give you the same amount of fibre as an apple. Multiply that by the number of apples it took to make your juice and that's a lot of lettuce even if you happen to really love lettuce.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by wlievens »

saebekassebil wrote: post #81
shirro wrote: post #68

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I don't know if fresh is always better. It is better at some things. I like freshly squeezed oranges at home but there have been several cases around the world where unpasteurised fresh orange juice has been the cause of salmonella infection. Sometimes we trade taste and nutrition for convenience, safety, consistency and year round availability. I like freshly squeezed oranges off my orange tree but they don't grow a…

> I like freshly squeezed oranges off my orange tree but they don't grow all year round. I am mostly happy not to consume oranges out of season but that isn't really a basis for a sustainable industry... Actually I'd call that the definition of a basis for a sustainable industry...

Yeah there's common sense in accepting that some produce is only available some of the time. There's plenty of decent fruit even in winter; I don't need strawberries right now.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by 001sky »

pmoriarty wrote: post #57
jinushaun wrote: post #8

I know this article is trying to "scare me with science," but it actually makes me proud that science allows for orange juice year round. Fresh is always better than not fresh, but this is something we as a society should be proud of, not ashamed.

The article is not about "scaring you with science". It's about accuracy and honesty in labelling. Don't label something "natural" or "100% fresh juice" if it's not.

"juice is dangerous. It’s far too easy to consume"

This is the sub-text of the article, so I think you're being a little naive. Working backwards from the conclusion, there is no difference between various type of juice.

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